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Re: Deviant. Paul Harrison's book.
« Reply #135 on: August 11, 2015, 01:02:PM »
No one would be interested in any of our books because all we have are our opinions. PH spoke with those involved - so he wasn't just giving his opinion.

Have you read the book, Jan?

Jan/Lookout. What do you make to Ed Lawsons comments, that Bamber was horrible, wholly interested in money and guilty.

Ed Lawson being junior for Bambers defence team.

I am going to read it and I have the CAL one on my kindle .

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Re: Deviant. Paul Harrison's book.
« Reply #136 on: August 11, 2015, 01:03:PM »
Because the book states no one was paid.  The letter makes it clear that they do not want anything in return. After having read the book I believe the author of the anonymous letter wasn't paid.

If you have anything that goes against that - I'd be interested in seeing/hearing it but I don't think you do. I think your dislike of PH is clouding your view on what is a pretty clear matter. I don't particularity like PH either but it seems clear to me there was no need or reason to pay an anonymous letter writer.
I can't help thinking if Scott Lomax wrote a book with an anonymous letter writer claiming JB had told him plausible reasons why he was innocent you would doubt the letter.  That is fair enough but you have to be even handed, just because you choose to believe the letter writer is authentic doesn't make it so apart from in your opinion.

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Re: Deviant. Paul Harrison's book.
« Reply #137 on: August 11, 2015, 01:05:PM »
No one would be interested in any of our books because all we have are our opinions. PH spoke with those involved - so he wasn't just giving his opinion.

Have you read the book, Jan?

Jan/Lookout. What do you make to Ed Lawsons comments, that Bamber was horrible, wholly interested in money and guilty.

Ed Lawson being junior for Bambers defence team.
Should a professional lawyer be making any kind of comments about a client?  I would have thought it was highly unacceptable for him to voice his personal opinions in this way? :-\

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Re: Deviant. Paul Harrison's book.
« Reply #138 on: August 11, 2015, 01:08:PM »
why did he need to come on this what could he find that he dident allready know if he was really resarching for reasrching for 10 years.

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Re: Deviant. Paul Harrison's book.
« Reply #139 on: August 11, 2015, 01:09:PM »
I can't help thinking if Scott Lomax wrote a book with an anonymous letter writer claiming JB had told him plausible reasons why he was innocent you would doubt the letter.  That is fair enough but you have to be even handed, just because you choose to believe the letter writer is authentic doesn't make it so apart from in your opinion.

And I am only giving MY opinion Maggie, it's all I can post.  I have already stated I didn't think much of the anonymous letter going into the book - it almost stopped me reading it - but there was information in the letter that made me believe the person who wrote it actually had spent time with Bamber.

The first being - he said Bamber gives nicknames to his supporters, negative ones - I know that's true.

And the 2nd being that Bamber speaks out loud when he is writing his letter, I know that's true too.

So for me it added credence to it.

But that's just my opinion, my opinion is all I can speak and just becuase I don't right IMO at the end of every post doesn't mean I am posting something other than my opinion.  ;D I am sure people can tell I am not speaking for anyone else when I post a post.

Should a professional lawyer be making any kind of comments about a client?  I would have thought it was highly unacceptable for him to voice his personal opinions in this way? :-\

He is entitled to his opinion. Doesn't matter if you like it or not, he spoke about his experiences with Bamber and his feelings of Bamber. He was a junior for the defence.


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Re: Deviant. Paul Harrison's book.
« Reply #140 on: August 11, 2015, 01:10:PM »
I wonder if he is actually dead ? Was Brett interviewed for any other books at all?
Think Brett disappeared after Jeremy was found guilty and not surprising when you think about it. 

He was abused by the press for being gay ie. a 'puff'' etc., I would think he may have feared he could find himself locked up as well or at the very least tarred with the same brush, whether he believed Jeremy innocent or guilty.  He may have even changed his name, who knows? 

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Re: Deviant. Paul Harrison's book.
« Reply #141 on: August 11, 2015, 01:15:PM »


He is entitled to his opinion. Doesn't matter if you like it or not, he spoke about his experiences with Bamber and his feelings of Bamber. He was a junior for the defence.

Its not a matter of whether I like it or not, I still don't believe it's ethical for a professional to speak personally about anyone he has dealt with in a professional capacity.
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Re: Deviant. Paul Harrison's book.
« Reply #142 on: August 11, 2015, 01:18:PM »
With a defence like that is it any wonder he lost his case.

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« Reply #143 on: August 11, 2015, 01:20:PM »
With a defence like that is it any wonder he lost his case.

He says they tirelessly looked for evidence of innocence, but couldn't find any. Jeremys comments on the stand whilst being questioned didn't help.

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Re: Deviant. Paul Harrison's book.
« Reply #144 on: August 11, 2015, 01:20:PM »
And I am only giving MY opinion Maggie, it's all I can post.  I have already stated I didn't think much of the anonymous letter going into the book - it almost stopped me reading it - but there was information in the letter that made me believe the person who wrote it actually had spent time with Bamber.

The first being - he said Bamber gives nicknames to his supporters, negative ones - I know that's true.

And the 2nd being that Bamber speaks out loud when he is writing his letter, I know that's true too.

So for me it added credence to it.

Am interested in how you know so much about JBs behaviour in prison and can only assume you know someone who has spent time with him in prison but that's not my business.
Of course it's fair enough to have your own opinion, I was just saying you would lambast Scott Lomax or his equivalent for writing similar from the opposite angle.  In the end it is only PHs OPINION it was Brett Collins on the phone he said he couldn't prove it.

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Re: Deviant. Paul Harrison's book.
« Reply #145 on: August 11, 2015, 01:23:PM »
With a defence like that is it any wonder he lost his case.
Not a great advertisement is It?

Hi Buddy, long time no see. Hope you are well.  ;D ;D

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Re: Deviant. Paul Harrison's book.
« Reply #146 on: August 11, 2015, 01:32:PM »
Hi Maggie, I am on the site quite a lot, but do not post much as much is old hat

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Re: Deviant. Paul Harrison's book.
« Reply #147 on: August 11, 2015, 01:33:PM »
No one would be interested in any of our books because all we have are our opinions. PH spoke with those involved - so he wasn't just giving his opinion.

Have you read the book, Jan?

Jan/Lookout. What do you make to Ed Lawsons comments, that Bamber was horrible, wholly interested in money and guilty.

Ed Lawson being junior for Bambers defence team.







Not having read the book I believe that Ed Lawson has got a lot to learn. My opinion, as him having been a junior at the time,he'd have thought along the lines as others of that age just starting up with the very minimum of wages/salary who see Jeremy with his wages and life-style etc.
A lot of Jeremy's " type " were obnoxious people who only tended to mix with their own,which still goes on today,and you'll be surprised to know that I have no time for those type of people myself,but I certainly wouldn't point a finger at them and blame them for a murder because they were obnoxious,and this is part of what I see that's happened.
Is Ed Lawson now a solicitor for the prosecution ?

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Re: Deviant. Paul Harrison's book.
« Reply #148 on: August 11, 2015, 01:39:PM »






Not having read the book I believe that Ed Lawson has got a lot to learn. My opinion, as him having been a junior at the time,he'd have thought along the lines as others of that age just starting up with the very minimum of wages/salary who see Jeremy with his wages and life-style etc.
A lot of Jeremy's " type " were obnoxious people who only tended to mix with their own,which still goes on today,and you'll be surprised to know that I have no time for those type of people myself,but I certainly wouldn't point a finger at them and blame them for a murder because they were obnoxious,and this is part of what I see that's happened.
Is Ed Lawson now a solicitor for the prosecution ?

Hello lookout

I believe Ed Lawson is now dead I am sure it said that in the book.

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Re: Deviant. Paul Harrison's book.
« Reply #149 on: August 11, 2015, 01:45:PM »
Hello lookout

I believe Ed Lawson is now dead I am sure it said that in the book.




Hello Susan.

Oh,another one's opinion who can't answer back.  ::)  Sorry if he is dead of course,but I can't help wondering who else is dead who's included in this book. PH must have written it through a " medium ". Now I know why it took 10 years !!