Palm print on Bloodied Bible?

[guest2181]

I don't know what it means to be honest because if it is her print and it was moved and the blood on the carpet did not transfer to the bible does it mean the blood on the carpet was dry ?But did not those drips of blood from Sheilas arm transfer to the bible ? If so that would mean her blood was wet when it was transferred ?

It can't possible be her print. 

[lookout]

Were June's hands clean ?

[Caroline]

We've obviously had this exchange a dozen times or more. It seems very obvious to me that the blood stains on her night dress transferred from her wrist area of her right hand. Clearly Venizis realised this during his examination and prior to producing his final report.
He is very specific when he states that her palms and fingers were free from blood. He doesn't say that her hands were free from blood.

In order for your bible blood stain to be a Palm print left by Sheila, then her Palm and fingers could not be free from blood. Yet we know that they were.

Therefore, if the stain on the bible is a Palm print (which I very much doubt it to be) then it must belong to somebody other than Sheila.

That's a LOT of assumption H. We don't know that her hands were free from blood because that's not what he initially said. If her hands WERE free from blood why on earth write 'hands not contaminated APART from blood'. And for him to suggest the stain on her nightdress came from her palm, he must have had reason for thinking that - if there was no blood on her palms, then he wouldn't have assumed it was a from her palm.

[Caroline]

It can't possible be her print.

Of course it could 

[lookout]

It could have been June's palm.

[Caroline]

We can also tell that Sheila didn't move after being shot. We can tell this from the blood patterns and flow from her wounds.

There is no opportunity for her to create a Palm print on the bible, particularly as we know her palms and fingers were free of blood.

I think this is similar to seeing shapes in the clouds, or a long haired Sandle wearing dude on your morning toast.

We don't know that - we only know that Venezis changed what he originally stated in his notes from 'no contamination APART from blood' to 'free from blood'. Rather than assume, I would like to know why. Also, if she didn't move, where did the trails on her arms come from and she certainly has blood on the back of her hand.

[Caroline]

Its only part of the hand tho. what are the dimensions of a page of that particular bible

From memory the dimension of the pages are 13cm width by 22cm height.

[lookout]

Free from blood after she'd soaked her " bloody " clothes washing off any GSR/Blood.

[Jane]

Free from blood after she'd soaked her " bloody " clothes washing off any GSR/Blood.

And I suppose she then burned said soaked clothes in the Aga. Where WERE those clothes, Lookout?  You can't say the police destroyed them because they were convinced Sheila was responsible so they'd hardly have destroyed evidence of her being so.

[lookout]

And I suppose she then burned said soaked clothes in the Aga. Where WERE those clothes, Lookout?  You can't say the police destroyed them because they were convinced Sheila was responsible so they'd hardly have destroyed evidence of her being so.

I thought the soaked stuff was binned by AE after she'd taken the buckets home. Why she did that,God only knows. One of Sheila's tops/blouse's was in one of the buckets,along with a couple of pairs of the boys trousers.Why the need for 3 buckets ?

[Caroline]

And I suppose she then burned said soaked clothes in the Aga. Where WERE those clothes, Lookout?  You can't say the police destroyed them because they were convinced Sheila was responsible so they'd hardly have destroyed evidence of her being so.

The only things soaking were her underwear and some joggers belonging to the twins. 

[Caroline]

I thought the soaked stuff was binned by AE after she'd taken the buckets home. Why she did that,God only knows. One of Sheila's tops/blouse's was in one of the buckets,along with a couple of pairs of the boys trousers.Why the need for 3 buckets ?

She didn't take the buckets home  . She binned the knickers and the joggers and later took the bin home. There was no tops/blouse. Where on earth are you getting this from?

[lookout]

The only things soaking were her underwear and some joggers belonging to the twins. 

In 3 buckets ?

[Caroline]

In 3 buckets ?

There were just two buckets Lookout 

[lookout]

One bucket's been removed.The one with a garment hanging over the outside of it ?