30 Years Anniversary

[Jan]

What's the difference if he apologizes or not?

Adam initially said he doesn't believe that Jeremy would admit to anyone that the materials he and his supporters kept claiming were withheld under PII were turned over to him.  Thus he believes Caroline and Jan were not telling the truth of Jeremy admitting to it.

Adam's position only hurt himself because it keeps alive the false notion there are materials out there which are still being withheld from Jeremy.  After thinking about how his position hurt his own stance he started this thread which totally contradicts his initial assessment.

In this thread Adam adopts the position Jeremy did admit he received all the materials.  What changed that now he suddenly is willing to believe Jeremy admitted it when he said initially such a notion wasn't credible?  It looks like he changed stance only because he realized it would be beneficial for his arguments of Jeremy's guilt. That's no different than how his polar opposites act.

This is more embarrassing than simply having accused Caroline and Jan of making it up.

 

 

I know in your world being called a liar is not important but contrary to your world in mine it is a big insult .In my upbringing its just good manners to apologise if you have got something wrong. Its not difficult.

[Jan]

This is rather sad 

it is . Its sad for all involved whatever the truth. Sad for the family because obviously authors have used it to publish their books  and I am sure they don't need reminding. And possibly sad for a man who is either  obviously very sick and deluded- or  has wasted 30 years trying to prove the truth.

[susan]

it is . Its sad for all involved whatever the truth. Sad for the family because obviously authors have used it to publish their books  and I am sure they don't need reminding. And possibly sad for a man who is either  obviously very sick and deluded- or  has wasted 30 years trying to prove the truth.

Jan a very nice fair post

[Steve_uk]

it is . Its sad for all involved whatever the truth. Sad for the family because obviously authors have used it to publish their books  and I am sure they don't need reminding. And possibly sad for a man who is either  obviously very sick and deluded- or  has wasted 30 years trying to prove the truth.

As the 30th anniversary of these ghastly crimes approaches I was wondering if it would be in Jeremy's interests to admit to what he did,blame it on the Zeitgeist or his misspent youth or drugs and in that way try as best he can to move on rather than try and spin out the ordeal for surviving family(one thinks of Colin in particular who deserves the truth however shocking). Whether the Defence are looking for new evidence similar to the Sion Jenkins case,the reliability of Prosecution evidence as in the Barry George case or the State just wanting to be rid of the murderous old bag Sheila Bowler,wouldn't Jeremy now just be best served by his lawyers if they told him to come clean and they could all take it from there.

[Jan]

As the 30th anniversary of these ghastly crimes approaches I was wondering if it would be in Jeremy's interests to admit to what he did,blame it on the Zeitgeist or his misspent youth or drugs and in that way try as best he can to move on rather than try and spin out the ordeal for surviving family(one thinks of Colin in particular who deserves the truth however shocking). Whether the Defence are looking for new evidence similar to the Sion Jenkins case,the reliability of Prosecution evidence as in the Barry George case or the State just wanting to be rid of the murderous old bag Sheila Bowler,wouldn't Jeremy now just be best served by his lawyers if they told him to come clean and they could all take it from there.

I am sure they all would have told him that anyway because I understand they would be working pro-bono so why would they want to waste their time?

[Caroline]

Tonights the night. To coin a phrase.

[guest154]

Tonights the night. To coin a phrase.

Sounds familiar..

[lookout]

 Sounds too good to be true.

[Jan]

Caroline did you ever get an apology ?

[Caroline]

Caroline did you ever get an apology ?

No, I didn't expect one - it takes someone with a backbone. Did you?

[scipio_usmc]

No, I didn't expect one - it takes someone with a backbone. Did you?

Imitation is the best form of flattery and he adopted your position ultimately- he said Jeremy admits he got everything.

[Caroline]

Imitation is the best form of flattery and he adopted your position ultimately- he said Jeremy admits he got everything.

Someone should remind Jeremy - because now he's saying he didn't 

[Jan]

No, I didn't expect one - it takes someone with a backbone. Did you?

not a whisper - but I see he is still going on about the boxes . Idiot

[Caroline]

not a whisper - but I see he is still going on about the boxes . Idiot