An innocent Jeremy = an amazingly brave (and stupid) Julie:

[Adam]

Apart from being savagely vindictive and supremely confident, Julie must have been amazingly brave to do what she did to an innocent Jeremy.

A month after the massacre and Jeremy was a free man. An innocent Jeremy had not said anything to Julie. There would be no evidence supporting a guilty Jeremy.

Despite this she approached the police, and amazingly told unsupported lies to try to get the correct murder/suicide verdict overturned. 

She would assume there was no evidence which would support her lies. Meaning she would get into trouble if found to be lying. Maybe she thought she wouldn't get found out and her testimony alone would be enough. Which was very very naive.

She was prepared to and went through with a WS and testifying. Knowing Bamber was innocent and  a 'not guilty' verdict would ruin her.

Jesus, she was brave (and stupid). 

Although I have to say she was also very brave in going to police after a month if Jeremy was guilty. As I just stated in another thread.

[scipio_usmc]

There is an ongoing thread already apart from this being debated to death previously. I am going to sponsor a boycott of this thread. 

[Adam]

This is a different issue to Julie and the books.

Supporters have to agree that Julie was amazingly brave to do what she did to an 'innocent' Jeremy, because he apparently jilted her.

[Adam]

Talk about Julie kicking a man when he's down.

He was innocent and had just lost his family, poor man. But she was brave and callous enough to approach the police.

[David1819]

Apart from being savagely vindictive and supremely confident, Julie must have been amazingly brave to do what she did to an innocent Jeremy.

A month after the massacre and Jeremy was a free man. An innocent Jeremy had not said anything to Julie. There would be no evidence supporting a guilty Jeremy.

Despite this she approached the police, and amazingly told unsupported lies to try to get the correct murder/suicide verdict overturned. 

She would assume there was no evidence which would support her lies. Meaning she would get into trouble if found to be lying. Maybe she thought she wouldn't get found out and her testimony alone would be enough. Which was very very naive.

She was prepared to and went through with a WS and testifying. Knowing a 'not guilty' verdict would ruin her.

Jesus, she was brave (and stupid). 

Although I have to say she was also very brave in going to police after a month if Jeremy was guilty. As I just stated in another thread.

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Innocent Jeremy = Evil extended family

[Adam]

and

Innocent Jeremy = Evil extended family

And corrupt police and experts.

In fact, an innocent Jeremy = dozens of amazingly brave (and stupid) people.

[Adam]

If Julie wanted to upset Jeremy because he 'apparently' jilted her, then going to the police with a fake story would surely not be the answer.

The police would laugh her out of the station. She may face criminal charges for wasting police time. The news would get out and Jeremy would have a laugh. As well as get an ego boost, that an ex was so upset she attempted this.

It was a month since the massacre. As far as Julie was aware, 😈the police didn't even have Bamber as a suspect.

All in all there is only one credible reason Julie would go to the police. Bamber had said those things to her.

[David1819]

And corrupt police and experts.

In fact, an innocent Jeremy = dozens of amazingly brave (and stupid) people.

That is exactly what happened to David Bain. It all began to snowball against him when a police officer though he was faking a fit.

[Adam]

A jilted woman that wants revenge will be much more cunning than Julie apparently was.

Julie charging to the police and telling massive lies is much too crude. It would just get her into big trouble. She wasn't stupid. Anyway she wasn't exactly charging to the police and telling lies, as she had ready told five people. Unless she lied to them as well.

Politician Chris Hulne's wife was jilted by him. After a long period she shopped him for a driving offence he committed over ten years earlier, which she had agreed to take the rap for. Quality.

[David1819]

A jilted woman that wants revenge will be much more cunning than Julie apparently was.

Julie charging to the police and telling massive lies is much too crude. It would just get her into big trouble. She wasn't stupid. Anyway she wasn't exactly charging to the police and telling lies, as she had ready told five people. Unless she lied to them as well.

Politician Chris Hulne's wife was jilted by him. After a long period she shopped him for a driving offence he committed over ten years earlier, which she had agreed to take the rap for. Quality.

If your going to believe what Julie sais then you have to go with the Hitman scenario, which is what she said he told her

[Adam]

If your going to believe what Julie sais then you have to go with the Hitman scenario, which is what she said he told her

That's a good point.

Going to the police and mentioning MM, who she had no idea whether he had an alibi or not was amazingly brave. And amazingly stupid.

An 'innocent' Bamber would be rolling around laughing when he found out.

Bamber gave MM as a proxy to make himself look like less of a monster.

[Steve_uk]

That is exactly what happened to David Bain. It all began to snowball against him when a police officer though he was faking a fit.

It's a pity the snowball didn't intensify and propel him down a precipice.

[David1819]

It's a pity the snowball didn't intensify and propel him down a precipice.

I take it you believe David Bain is guilty then?

[Steve_uk]

I take it you believe David Bain is guilty then?

Yes David. I was on a New Zealand site similar to this one but haven't visited it for some time. http://davidbain.counterspin.co.nz/

http://davidbain.counterspin.co.nz/forum/subliminal-or-other-influences-on-david

[David1819]

Yes David. I was on a New Zealand site similar to this one but haven't visited it for some time. http://davidbain.counterspin.co.nz/

That's interesting, why do you believe so?

I thought the court established it was more likely to have been his dad?