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[Adam]

Perfectly possible for greedy people to fall in love. The greed will have developed long before they meet their love interest.

So she fell in love because of greed. How romantic.

There is no evidence Julie was looking for a rich man to look after her. If she was, then she could do better than 'potential' in 20 years. There are plenty of older men that would be happy to be a sugar daddy to a 20 year old.

[Adam]

Nobody ever said she did not love him  and I know of people who do make all sorts of excuses for peoples bad behaviour during a relationship ( trust me I do) But there is a limit and telling someone you arranged the murder of 6 year old twins is one of them .

Yes, she went to police and testified against him. Julie had reached her limit.

[Jane]

So she fell in love because of greed. How romantic.

There is no evidence Julie was looking for a rich man to look after her. If she was, then she could do better than 'potential' in 20 years. There are plenty of older men that would be happy to be a sugar daddy to a 20 year old.

I was about to say that we don't know anything about any previous boyfriends but it's just come to me that she was going out with someone -a fellow student- who she dumped after she started going out with Jeremy.

 It's very mean of you to suggest that she fell in love because of greed. All I said was that greed doesn't preclude or prevent people from falling in love. As for romance, I imagine we all have different ideas of what constitutes it. You're the one who suggests she could have found an older man. You clearly have made no attempt to understand that Julie may have thought, despite that YOU think she could have done better, that she had found in Jeremy, everything she wanted.

[Adam]

I was about to say that we don't know anything about any previous boyfriends but it's just come to me that she was going out with someone -a fellow student- who she dumped after she started going out with Jeremy.

 It's very mean of you to suggest that she fell in love because of greed. All I said was that greed doesn't prelude or prevent people from falling in love. You're the one who suggests she could have found an older man. You clearly have made no attempt to understand that Julie may have thought, despite that YOU think she could have done better, that she had found in Jeremy, everything she wanted.

She may have found everything she wanted. But Bamber himself says it had been fizzling out for 6 months. Although he was the one who involved her in the caravan break in and took her on post massacre trips.

Going out with a student before a farm labourer ? She really was a gold digger.

[Jane]

She may have found everything she wanted. But Bamber himself says it had been fizzling out for 6 months. Although he was the one who involved her in the caravan break in and took her on post massacre trips.

Going out with a student before a farm labourer ? She really was a gold digger.

Why do you quote Jeremy as if he is speaking for Julie? And I wonder what it says about you that you insist on calling him a farm labourer. I wonder how many of them were earning -I think Jeremy quoted- £18,000 per year in 1985.

[Jan]

Yes, she went to police and testified against him. Julie had reached her limit.

No liz called and told the police she was withholding  evidence - there is a difference .

[scipio_usmc]

No liz called and told the police she was withholding  evidence - there is a difference .

Yes the difference being the claim Julie made up the story and ran to police with it to get back at Jeremy flies out the window.

[Adam]

No liz called and told the police she was withholding  evidence - there is a difference .

Liz called. Julie was in the room. She had told five people.

[Jane]

Liz called. Julie was in the room. She had told five people.

I imagine she was relieved that the decision had been made for her.

[Adam]

I imagine she was relieved that the decision had been made for her.

I agree.

[Jane]

I agree.

You DO!!!  O - M - G 

[Adam]

You DO!!!  O - M - G 

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Very much so.

We've no doubt all been in an undecided situation. Someone has given us a nudge or just done something we should have done.

[Jan]

Yes the difference being the claim Julie made up the story and ran to police with it to get back at Jeremy flies out the window.

It may not be that black and white .

[Jan]

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Very much so.

We've no doubt all been in an undecided situation. Someone has given us a nudge or just done something we should have done.

Really ? A nudge to do something we should have done?

you make it sound like stealing make up from Boots.

[Adam]

Really ? A nudge to do something we should have done?

you make it sound like stealing make up from Boots.

I will find the thread again on why it took a 20 year woman a month to go to the police about her boyfriend, when everyone was treating it as murder/suicide.