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[lookout]

Even though GSR was found on his clothing !

[Adam]

It was an unsafe conviction end of. So therefore he could be innocent.

Jeremy hasn't even been able to show it was an unsafe conviction.

But full marks for trying.

[Adam]

I doubt that Barry George made a big attempt to get released.

He had mental health problems so probably didn't have a clue what was going on. It would have lawyers working on his behalf, keen to get brownie points on a high profile case.

Jeremy has been given lots of legal support but is also very hands on a clued up in his campaign. But it has not been enough.

[Jan]

Jeremy hasn't even been able to show it was an unsafe conviction.

But full marks for trying.

don't try and put words in my mouth - where did I say that?

[Jan]

I doubt that Barry George made a big attempt to get released.

He had mental health problems so probably didn't have a clue what was going on. It would have lawyers working on his behalf, keen to get brownie points on a high profile case.

Jeremy has been given lots of legal support but is also very hands on a clued up in his campaign. But it has not been enough.

? so are you saying that those with mental health problems only get help to score brownie points?

[scipio_usmc]

Even though GSR was found on his clothing !

a single particle was found in a pocket.  It is easy for a single particle to be transferred this was unable to establish anything from a firearms perspective.

[Adam]

don't try and put words in my mouth - where did I say that?

Not putting words into anyone's mouth. Just stating a fact.

[Adam]

? so are you saying that those with mental health problems only get help to score brownie points?

Don't put words into my mouth.

Just stating a probability. Unlike Bamber for 30 years, Barry George probably didn't do one thing to try to get released. He was much too ill. Even when the conviction was overturned all he could say was 'I can't believe it'. Rather than making a big speech on the court steps.

[David1819]

I doubt that Barry George made a big attempt to get released.

He had mental health problems so probably didn't have a clue what was going on. It would have lawyers working on his behalf, keen to get brownie points on a high profile case.

Jeremy has been given lots of legal support but is also very hands on a clued up in his campaign. But it has not been enough.

What about Sion Jenkings?

[Adam]

What about Sion Jenkings?

What about him ?

He was an intelligent man and worked with his lawyers to get released. Although was also refused compensation.

[Adam]

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://www.cps.gov.uk/legal/p_to_r/retrials/&ved=0CBwQFjAAahUKEwji5MiozfrGAhUBcRQKHYPLBy0&usg=AFQjCNFRUsAkLvYDDCyG4Pc_rCdcU1Ygcg&sig2=AILTvQyVKxFjo7YLr9dMqA

Interesting article on retrials.

Jeremy would have to get his case to the COA who would suggest a retrial. I assume after they have overturned the conviction.

However it seems he can also jump straight to a retrial if 'new and compelling' evidence is supplied.

[nugnug]

 a retrial depends on the proscution if the proscution say they still have evedence to make a case agianst the defendant it will go to retrial if they say the havent it would just go to formal auqietel.

[Jan]

What about him ?

He was an intelligent man and worked with his lawyers to get released. Although was also refused compensation.

so do you think that if compensation is not given it still means the person is guilty ?

That is not the reason.

[Adam]

On Thursday 12th May 2011 a Supreme Court ruling that widens the definition of a miscarriage of justice has been hailed as a step in the right direction by campaigners.

The Supreme Court ruled, by the narrowest of margins, that some acquitted in court are entitled to compensation even if they cannot prove their innocence beyond reasonable doubt.

But judges warned the ruling would lead to some guilty people landing taxpayer-funded payouts. Currently, anyone who overturns their conviction must have been ‘shown conclusively to be innocent’ before compensation is considered.

[Jan]

On Thursday 12th May 2011 a Supreme Court ruling that widens the definition of a miscarriage of justice has been hailed as a step in the right direction by campaigners.

The Supreme Court ruled, by the narrowest of margins, that some acquitted in court are entitled to compensation even if they cannot prove their innocence beyond reasonable doubt.

But judges warned the ruling would lead to some guilty people landing taxpayer-funded payouts. Currently, anyone who overturns their conviction must have been ‘shown conclusively to be innocent’ before compensation is considered.

there are more recent cases on here that have been discussed in respect of this ruling that explain things more clearly