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Offline susan

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« Reply #615 on: July 26, 2015, 04:31:PM »
Maybe it was in the laundry? If anything was to happen to me in the middle of the night whilst I was in my Y-fronts....it wouldn't take much to work out what I had been wearing that day, just check my washing basket.

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maybe if that was the only article of Sheila's in the laundry AE would assume she had wore it that day had it been worn the day before June would have washed it.  If AE took it home I guess she would have run it past EP before removing it maybe she kept it for sentimental reasons ???

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« Reply #616 on: July 26, 2015, 04:37:PM »
Jan/Mat

maybe if that was the only article of Sheila's in the laundry AE would assume she had wore it that day had it been worn the day before June would have washed it.  If AE took it home I guess she would have run it past EP before removing it maybe she kept it for sentimental reasons ???

form memory Only I think she offered it to the police for testing - not sure why - and they were not interested.

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« Reply #617 on: July 26, 2015, 09:25:PM »
form memory Only I think she offered it to the police for testing - not sure why - and they were not interested.

The police didn't take it in the first place because there was no blood or soot stains on it so nothing to indicate it could have been worn during commission of the murders then changed out of.  The defense was aware she had it but made no effort to have it tested either for the same reason police didn't want it.
While she still had it as of 1991 it is unclear if it was disposed of after that point or still to this day is held.
 
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« Reply #618 on: July 27, 2015, 03:19:PM »
We had the taster,but there's nothing like the full book. More similar in style to Clare Powell than Roger Wilkes,I had not heard of Carol Ann Lee previously before, a single mother with one son from Yorkshire looking remarkably like a middle-aged Ann Eaton, authoress of ten previous books including two much acclaimed works on Myra Hindley and Ruth Ellis.

There is nothing really new in the book apart from an epilogue containing Colin's email to the author dated July 19 2013 requesting privacy and Appendix 1 reconstructing the Police scenario sent to the Director of Public Prosecutions in 1985. Both reiterate Jeremy's guilt.

It's hard not to reach a similar conclusion when one confronts the scale of the conspiracy needed in order for the defendant to be innocent. If anything the book has alienated me further from Jeremy as we learned more of the lives of the people involved ,many seemingly inconsequential details which put the characters in context and whom nobody had the right to destroy.

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« Reply #619 on: July 29, 2015, 04:41:AM »
Hi All.Probably wrong thread,but I just wanted to ask if anyone who has read 'Deviant' recommends the book ? I cannot decide whether to buy it or not. Will I learn anything new? Previously,PH disclosed that he was going to expose the corruption carried out by EP and the relatives with regards to the investigation into the murders (I still have the emails). Does the book cover this aspect? Later,it was said that PH had found new evidence that proves JB's guilt and that the book would put the case to bed once and for all. Can anyone say what the new 'evidence' is? Thanks x

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« Reply #620 on: July 29, 2015, 10:50:AM »
Hi tyler,how lovely to hear from you.x

I haven't as yet got the book,like yourself I was in two minds whether to buy it or not given that it didn't get such a good reception on the " red " forum,so there must be something in it that they don't like or agree to. ;D
However,something's confusing me at what you've posted-----EP's corruption and JB's guilt don't somehow gel ?

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« Reply #621 on: July 29, 2015, 10:58:AM »
Hi tyler,how lovely to hear from you.x

I haven't as yet got the book,like yourself I was in two minds whether to buy it or not given that it didn't get such a good reception on the " red " forum,so there must be something in it that they don't like or agree to. ;D
However,something's confusing me at what you've posted-----EP's corruption and JB's guilt don't somehow gel ?

Obviously he couldn't find any corruption. Otherwise it would be front page news. So his boast that he was going to expose it was simply...a boast.

After investigating the case PH came to the conclusion of Bamber's guilt.
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« Reply #622 on: July 29, 2015, 11:01:AM »
If Jeremy and his lawyers cannot find any proof of police corruption after 30 years, I don't see how PH or CAL can. And they haven't.
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« Reply #623 on: July 29, 2015, 11:06:AM »
Silly me,police corruption is a myth isn't it ? It never happens.

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« Reply #624 on: July 29, 2015, 11:28:AM »
Silly me,police corruption is a myth isn't it ? It never happens.

Make your mind up Lookout, was Jeremy framed by EP or not? If not what corruption are you on about?
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« Reply #625 on: July 29, 2015, 11:53:AM »
Make your mind up Lookout, was Jeremy framed by EP or not? If not what corruption are you on about?






Again-----------did I mention Jeremy ?? I wasn't even thinking about HIM !

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« Reply #626 on: July 29, 2015, 12:39:PM »





Again-----------did I mention Jeremy ?? I wasn't even thinking about HIM !

If you think EP are corrupt you must believe he was framed if not, in what way have they been corrupt? 
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« Reply #627 on: July 29, 2015, 01:38:PM »
If you think EP are corrupt you must believe he was framed if not, in what way have they been corrupt?







There have been other cases you know. One which is still on-going that I've been looking for where a father states that his son had been murdered but EP ( knowing the son had been murdered ) have denied it and said it was an accident involving farming machinery.

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« Reply #628 on: July 29, 2015, 06:32:PM »






There have been other cases you know. One which is still on-going that I've been looking for where a father states that his son had been murdered but EP ( knowing the son had been murdered ) have denied it and said it was an accident involving farming machinery.

How do you know that they know he was murdered?
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« Reply #629 on: July 29, 2015, 06:39:PM »
If you think EP are corrupt you must believe he was framed if not, in what way have they been corrupt?

Do you think "bending the truth"  or buying statements for the "noble cause" is corrupt or acceptable ?

If you think the silencer was a red herring and it turns out it was manipulated as evidence is that corrupt or not? 

Just a question I am not saying that is what happened.