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Offline Jane

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« Reply #570 on: July 23, 2015, 03:33:PM »
As usual Lookout doesn't quite post the truth.


This is what he ACTUALLY says.
"I think the case would benefit from a new forensic examination of the remaining exhibits and photographs - particularly in relation to the analysis of the patterns of blood-splattering, which could provide additional and useful evidence.

What I find most frustrating is that, had modern DNA techniques and itemised billing for telephone calls been available in 1985, many of the doubts about this troubling case would have been laid to rest a long time "



I guess the best that can be said of it is that it's ambiguous.

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« Reply #571 on: July 23, 2015, 04:50:PM »
As usual Lookout doesn't quite post the truth.


This is what he ACTUALLY says.
"I think the case would benefit from a new forensic examination of the remaining exhibits and photographs - particularly in relation to the analysis of the patterns of blood-splattering, which could provide additional and useful evidence.

What I find most frustrating is that, had modern DNA techniques and itemised billing for telephone calls been available in 1985, many of the doubts about this troubling case would have been laid to rest a long time "


The photos are not that good.  They did not take closeups of all the spatter so as to allow reconstruction of events based on spatter.  They can at best make isolated observations.

If itemized billing had been in use in 1985 it would have simply made it necessary for Jeremy to call his answering machine from WHF and it would show a call from WHF to his place or he could have turned it off, called his place, set the ringer on low so no one would hear it ring and let it ring until he got home and answered.  Then it would show up as a call from WHF to Goldhanger. 

The only way itemized billing would have helped is if Jeremy didn't know about such and thus didn't fake a call to himself in which case his lie would be easily busted.

Itemized billing would have forced him to use the car instead of leaving him the option of the bike because he would have needed to get home faster and instead of dissuading supporters the fact a call was made would further embolden them.  The Campaign Team would be insisting it was Nevill who called and would deny to the hilt that Jeremy faked the call.

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« Reply #572 on: July 23, 2015, 04:54:PM »





Like I said,he's not got away with it,so why the continued determination that he stays put where he's been for the last 30 years when in your eyes he's where he belongs ? I really can't see the logic. What more do you want ?

I want to make sure that people don't get hoodwinked by the myths that keep circulating and jump on any and every attempt to spin the truth out of all proportion because it is done here on a daily basis. If innocent supporters don't like that, it must be because they don't care about the truth!
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« Reply #573 on: July 23, 2015, 04:55:PM »





What I read included the appeal.

Where did you read it?
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« Reply #574 on: July 23, 2015, 04:59:PM »
Selective,as per.

Me selective??  The irony!!! ;D ;D ;D

I copied the only part that I saw in the article that remotely spoke about what you saw. If you saw something about the appeal it isn't in that article that I can see.

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« Reply #575 on: July 23, 2015, 05:03:PM »



As ya'll can see - I got my copy of Deviant, if I am going to comment on it I do need to read it - plus I hear the researchers are pretty decent.

Also got a new beach vest - and was shocked to see our very own susans face on it!  :)

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« Reply #576 on: July 23, 2015, 05:07:PM »
What you purposely omitted was the bit where he said " the trial jury weren't provided with accurate evidence which may result in a re-trial ",as he'd mentioned that new photographs shown since appeared to show some re-staging during original investigations and that scratch marks on the Aga had not been there or made during the incident.

There is no evidence of police restaging anything.  The expert who claimed there were no marks on the Aga blew up photos the defense had of the mantle in the background, he didn't even have negatives.  His process is not recognized as a valid means because blowing up a photo doesn't result in the level of detail necessary to be able to assess the mantle.  What you keep raising are things rejected by the CCRC and Court of Appeals or things entirely made up by Jeremy supporters thus never presented to the CCRC/Court of Appeals.

 
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« Reply #577 on: July 23, 2015, 05:32:PM »



As ya'll can see - I got my copy of Deviant, if I am going to comment on it I do need to read it - plus I hear the researchers are pretty decent.

Also got a new beach vest - and was shocked to see our very own susans face on it!  :)

Hahaha Mat that means I will be with you for all of your holiday and I will be watching you ;D ;D ;D See Cal's book was on sale in Waterstones yestersay.

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« Reply #578 on: July 23, 2015, 05:35:PM »



As ya'll can see - I got my copy of Deviant, if I am going to comment on it I do need to read it - plus I hear the researchers are pretty decent.

Also got a new beach vest - and was shocked to see our very own susans face on it!  :)

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Nice tats Susan!  8) - YES! that is supposed to say TATS!  ;D ;D ;D ;D
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« Reply #579 on: July 23, 2015, 05:38:PM »
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Nice tats Susan!  8)

Caroline
where are my tats seem to have lost them ;D ;D ;D ;D

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« Reply #580 on: July 23, 2015, 05:41:PM »
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Nice tats Susan!  8) - YES! that is supposed to say TATS!  ;D ;D ;D ;D

Caroline hahaha found my tats down both arms and on my ankles Scottish thistles and Yorkshire roses ;D ;D ;D ;D

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« Reply #581 on: July 23, 2015, 05:53:PM »
Caroline
where are my tats seem to have lost them ;D ;D ;D ;D

You rubbed them too hard in the shower!!


Hahaha Mat that means I will be with you for all of your holiday and I will be watching you ;D ;D ;D See Cal's book was on sale in Waterstones yestersay.

Oh really?? I didn't think it was out yet. I will probably pick that up now too!!

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« Reply #582 on: July 23, 2015, 06:01:PM »
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Nice tats Susan!  8) - YES! that is supposed to say TATS!  ;D ;D ;D ;D



Are you SURE that's how you spell them, Caroline????????????

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« Reply #583 on: July 23, 2015, 06:04:PM »
You rubbed them too hard in the shower!!


Oh really?? I didn't think it was out yet. I will probably pick that up now too!!

Mat I have not seen it guess it will be light years away from this area Amazon told me 30th July.  Guess it is better to read one first I always read a book twice as I have a bad habit of skim reading and could be missing something.

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« Reply #584 on: July 23, 2015, 08:50:PM »


Are you SURE that's how you spell them, Caroline????????????

Yes, I'm sure!  ;D ;D ;D
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