The Murders at White House Farm - By Carol Ann Lee (A Taster!)

[Caroline]

If there really was a widespread conspiracy, the police wouldn't keep evidence of it in boxes.

Yeah! Who is going to set someone up for murder and leave documents stating how they did it and then keep them for 30 years? Even Nixon had the sense to start 'shredding' 

[susan]

If there really was a widespread conspiracy, the police wouldn't keep evidence of it in boxes.

Hello Mat

I was just reflecting on these hidden documents surely if any document incriminated EP they would just shred it not hide it.

[susan]

Yeah! Who is going to set someone up for murder and leave documents stating how they did it and then keep them for 30 years? Even Nixon had the sense to start 'shredding' 

Hahaha Caroline great minds think alike Shredding

[Jane]

Yeah! Who is going to set someone up for murder and leave documents stating how they did it and then keep them for 30 years? Even Nixon had the sense to start 'shredding' 

And risk them ending up in someone's garage from where, after there'd been some kind of contratemps, they could end up in the hands of some third party who could bring down the whole pack of playing cards...................if they ever got round to reading them.

[scipio_usmc]

Who in their right mind would make such a call and risk him calling the police? (Although in this case, there was no fear of that). They would be caught fairly quickly had he done so.

Even if someone were to dial Jeremy's number for Nevill and hand the phone to him telling him to summon Jeremy the pertinent question is how could the person trust Nevill not to tell Jeremy the name of who was there with a weapon figuring Nevill was going to be killed anyway so might as well let Jeremy know who is responsible and also to prevent Jeremy from becoming a victim as well by suckering him there.



 

[Caroline]

Hahaha Caroline great minds think alike Shredding

They would have to be REALLY stupid to keep incriminating evidence but I can't even think of what evidence they COULD have that would exonerate Jeremy? The Guilford Four, found that statements backing up their alibi had not been disclosed to the defence and it was also proven that various other statements had been heavily altered. We know that Colin's statement was altered (slightly) in this case but he found out before the trial and no one has come forward and claimed they had theirs altered.

Loopholes and technicalities is all  that's been found and claimed here.

[susan]

They would have to be REALLY stupid to keep incriminating evidence but I can't even think of what evidence they COULD have that would exonerate Jeremy? The Guilford Four, found that statements backing up their alibi had not been disclosed to the defence and it was also proven that various other statements had been heavily altered. We know that Colin's statement was altered (slightly) in this case but he found out before the trial and no one has come forward and claimed they had theirs altered.

Loopholes and technicalities is all  that's been found and claimed here.

Caroline thanks for that I did not know about Colin's statement being altered.

[Jane]

They would have to be REALLY stupid to keep incriminating evidence but I can't even think of what evidence they COULD have that would exonerate Jeremy? The Guilford Four, found that statements backing up their alibi had not been disclosed to the defence and it was also proven that various other statements had been heavily altered. We know that Colin's statement was altered (slightly) in this case but he found out before the trial and no one has come forward and claimed they had theirs altered.

Loopholes and technicalities is all  that's been found and claimed here.

I would have thought that the moment the conviction was secured, anything -EVERYTHING- which had a whiff of something not quite above board, would have been destroyed, be it shredded or burned. Perhaps they had a celebratory bonfire party and cremated it.

[Caroline]

Caroline thanks for that I did not know about Colin's statement being altered.

Can't remember exactly what it was but something was changed.

[Caroline]

I would have thought that the moment the conviction was secured, anything -EVERYTHING- which had a whiff of something not quite above board, would have been destroyed, be it shredded or burned. Perhaps they had a celebratory bonfire party and cremated it.

Perhaps 'it's' been folded into a little square and is (as we speak), being used to prop up the leg of an old desk in police head quarters? 

[David1819]

If there really was a widespread conspiracy, the police wouldn't keep evidence of it in boxes.

Yeah forget PII. conspiracies are planned without paperwork.

[Jane]

Yeah forget PII. conspiracies are planned without paperwork.

Given that this alleged conspiracy seems to have swelled to a cast of thousands, no ONE person could have afforded to commit anything to paper for fear of bringing down co-conspirators, and that's just those who were known to them. As the tentacles of this alleged conspiracy allegedly stretch far and wide it's highly likely that no one, save perhaps Mr Big, whoever HE was, knew all who were involved.

[guest154]

Yeah forget PII. conspiracies are planned without paperwork.

The argument that a conspiracy could be unfolded by having the PII material, just shows they don't know what PII is.

[Adam]

I don't think the phone call is the only reason - because there could be a very remote possibility that someone wanted the whole family dead and was forcing Neville to make the call to get Jeremy to come to the house. But I think it is pretty obvious that in that case there would not be an alleged "fake suicide".

Maybe it was the burglar who didn't take anything. Or the psychopath who just happened to be near WHF at 2am, and able to enter and exit undetected. 

[Adam]

The apparent unseen documents is a strange one for supporters.

They say the documents are being withheld because they have information that could free him. But obviously have no proof of this as the documents are unseen.

The documents are simply being withheld under PPI. Bamber's legal team have failed to get a court order to get access to these documents. Although Bamber still has millions of documents which Carol Ann Lee says he goes through every day. Enjoy.