Who gained the most

[chochokeira]

innocent he would get back what he is entitled to plus interest plus damages and that would have to be established as a matter of negotiation in a civil court...

What an interesting little Freudian slip...

Where?

The italicised section.

[sandy]

Why 'in the dark'?

Sorry should have been in the shadows.

[sandy]

innocent he would get back what he is entitled to plus interest plus damages and that would have to be established as a matter of negotiation in a civil court...

What an interesting little Freudian slip...

Where?

The italicised section.

I don't interpret that as a Freudian slip Keira. He will get back what he is entitled to under the law if he is cleared.

[Kaldin]

That doesn't say that the gun cupboard was fingerprinted though. It's referring to the issue of when the house in general was fingerprinted.

That's quite correct, see page 132 of Robert Boutflour's statement.

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,606.msg13260.html#msg13260

Thank you Sandy. I wonder if it can be established for certain when the house was fingerprinted.

In the appeal document it's implied that the house was not fingerprinted until September, but perhaps some of it had been done in August.

Our attention was drawn to a case diary kept by Mr Ainsley in which was recorded under 8 September:

"Scenes of Crime to visit 9 Head Street under the command of DI Cook and White House Farm under the command of DCI Wright and to carry out a full, thorough Scene of Crime examination, fingerprints and scientific in particular in relation to entry and exit marks at White House Farm".

http://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWCA/Crim/2002/2912.htm

Para 267.

[Kaldin]

There is no doubt that the prosecution did disclose the fact that a scene of crime examination did take place at White House Farm on September 8 and 9. The defence were served with statements of DS Finch, DS Lunn and DC King. A fingerprint examination took place.

http://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWCA/Crim/2002/2912.htm

Para 272.

[shonapugs]

Perhaps the question should be "who thought that they would gain the most"?

[Jackiepreece]

Keystone cops :D

[Roch]

Perhaps the question should be "who thought that they would gain the most"?

If JB thought he would gain the most, you would think he would have the intelligence not just to plan the crime itself, but to also preserve his liberty in the aftermath of the crime, so that he could enjoy the financial rewards.  However, in order to do that, he would have to keep the planning and execution of the crime to himself.  But he did the opposite.  He told Julie Mugford.  So he sewed the seeds of his own demise at the same time as scheming for his affluent future.

It's not really credible.

[shonapugs]

JB possibly wasn't the brightest bulb on the tree, and let's face it, he did seem to live it up as much as poss very soon after the killings/murders. By anyone's standards, he showed very little remorse, and couldn't wait to sell valuable stuff, both his parents' and Sheila's.

[Jackiepreece]

I am not sure I quite understand the silencer issue it is far too ridiculous and i hope to meet judge dredd or whatever he is called one day if he is not dead yet especially regarding the summing up issues


So the hit man had a plumbing job on the actual day it was convenient to carry out the murders, but life sucks sometimes, so jeremy decides he might as well do it he kills the twins kills his mother kills neville after a ferocious fight with his father although he didnt get a scratch gets his sister to lie down and calmly shoots her under the chin so it looks like suicide she doesnt mind although a bit pissed off because jeremys just killed her children then jeremy thinks oh well better take the silencer of the gun i dont want to get any more blood on me so i might as well put it in the cupboard as it is then he is stuck do i really really hide the silencer so its still in the farm if anyone asks or shall i just hide it a little bit and now i get stuck  because i dont know how fast his bike went on the way home

[Roch]

I am not sure I quite understand the silencer issue it is far too ridiculous and i hope to meet judge dredd or whatever he is called one day if he is not dead yet especially regarding the summing up issues


So the hit man had a plumbing job on the actual day it was convenient to carry out the murders, but life sucks sometimes, so jeremy decides he might as well do it he kills the twins kills his mother kills neville after a ferocious fight with his father although he didnt get a scratch gets his sister to lie down and calmly shoots her under the chin so it looks like suicide she doesnt mind although a bit pissed off because jeremys just killed her children then jeremy thinks oh well better take the silencer of the gun i dont want to get any more blood on me so i might as well put it in the cupboard as it is then he is stuck do i really really hide the silencer so its still in the farm if anyone asks or shall i just hide it a little bit and now i get stuck  because i dont know how fast his bike went on the way home

You forgot about him telling his lass before and after.....and then just letting them break up.  Also his wet suit 

[Kaldin]

I am not sure I quite understand the silencer issue it is far too ridiculous and i hope to meet judge dredd or whatever he is called one day if he is not dead yet especially regarding the summing up issues


So the hit man had a plumbing job on the actual day it was convenient to carry out the murders, but life sucks sometimes, so jeremy decides he might as well do it he kills the twins kills his mother kills neville after a ferocious fight with his father although he didnt get a scratch gets his sister to lie down and calmly shoots her under the chin so it looks like suicide she doesnt mind although a bit pissed off because jeremys just killed her children then jeremy thinks oh well better take the silencer of the gun i dont want to get any more blood on me so i might as well put it in the cupboard as it is then he is stuck do i really really hide the silencer so its still in the farm if anyone asks or shall i just hide it a little bit and now i get stuck  because i dont know how fast his bike went on the way home

You forgot about him telling his lass before and after.....and then just letting them break up.  Also his wet suit 

Maybe he wore flippers too. 

[Jackiepreece]

So Shonapugs we are on the Jeremy life style so he lived it up a bit but he had savings in the bank and he sold some stuff from the farm i have no idea what he did sell

But one of the relatives was stealing goods that belonged to the BAMBERS

Who was the most guilty jeremy who was selling some possesions that belonged to his family or Peter Eaton stealing stuff that did not belong to his family

oops forgot the police had already tipped peter off that jeremy was going to be convicted so it might as well have been his anyway lets not bother to investigate

[shonapugs]

I'm not questioning his lifestyle before the killings. I'm just wobbly as to why he seemed to use them as an excuse to immediately begin to profit afterwards.

[Roch]

I'm not questioning his lifestyle before the killings. I'm just wobbly as to why he seemed to use them as an excuse to immediately begin to profit afterwards.

To pay the hitman's 2nd installment?