Police log contents, and position of bodies in photographs don't add up, CRIKEY.

[Caroline]

No,I'd rather read your fantasies.

Really?? Well, there's this one where I ........ on second thoughts - MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS!! 

[scipio_usmc]

were did you get this from lookout.

As April pointed out this is actually the thing that Freddie claims caused her second breakdown. The phone going dead and then she went nuts and eventually Nevill had to hospitalize her the second time.

[lookout]

were did you get this from lookout.

Sorry nugs,I realise now that Sheila was at her own home when she " flipped " after being cut-off while on the phone. Her outburst at the time was that she thought she was being bugged ( all part and parcel of paranoia ) when Freddie was present. It was another time when he witnessed Sheila punching the wall out of anger and frustration and it scared him. She may have had a " thing " about phones in general and saw them as another way of " spying " on her,or keeping tags.

[Jane]

Sorry nugs,I realise now that Sheila was at her own home when she " flipped " after being cut-off while on the phone. Her outburst at the time was that she thought she was being bugged ( all part and parcel of paranoia ) when Freddie was present. It was another time when he witnessed Sheila punching the wall out of anger and frustration and it scared him. She may have had a " thing " about phones in general and saw them as another way of " spying " on her,or keeping tags.

And, of course, it had nothing whatsoever to do with June earwigging on the conversation from the extension and breaking the connection.

[Caroline]

And, of course, it had nothing whatsoever to do with June earwigging on the conversation from the extension and breaking the connection.

That's just an added bonus!! 

[lookout]

And, of course, it had nothing whatsoever to do with June earwigging on the conversation from the extension and breaking the connection.

That could well have happened on the night of the tragedy during the anticipated call from Christine ?

[Jane]

That's just an added bonus!! 

Yeh!! Like every other bit of garbage that's been thrown at us ie meter man and monastery. I've repeated that, quite innocently, as being the truth. Voila!!! the birth of yet more myths.

[Caroline]

That could well have happened on the night of the tragedy during the anticipated call from Christine ?

What anticipated call from Christine? Who is telling you this rubbish Lookout?

[Jane]

That could well have happened on the night of the tragedy during the anticipated call from Christine ?

Lookout, THINK, please. Why would she give Christine the telephone number of her adopted parents? I can't think of anything much more cruel. She had her own home and a telephone, surely any conversation she wanted to have with her biological mother would have been better done there.............apart from anything else, is there any proof from Christine that she was going to phone Sheila that night?

[lookout]

Lookout, THINK, please. Why would she give Christine the telephone number of her adopted parents? I can't think of anything much more cruel. She had her own home and a telephone, surely any conversation she wanted to have with her biological mother would have been better done there.............apart from anything else, is there any proof from Christine that she was going to phone Sheila that night?

Personally I couldn't think of anything more cruel than for June to tell Sheila that she was an unfit mother.
Did anyone know for sure what was to become of the twins ? Whatever had been discussed round the supper table,it certainly didn't bode well with Sheila. If you put yourself in her position where at first she thought there was a chance ( in her own mind ) that she and Colin would get back together. Then her mother suggesting foster care in the event that Sheila goes convalescing. The illness which already had a stronghold. Debts mounting because there was no work.
I honestly don't think that Sheila could hack the fact that Colin and his girlfriend would be taking her boys away from her for their holidays. Would anyone if they were being honest and had the added health problems too ?

There's a possibility that I saw reference to Christine's call on the red forum some time back.

[Caroline]

Personally I couldn't think of anything more cruel than for June to tell Sheila that she was an unfit mother.
Did anyone know for sure what was to become of the twins ? Whatever had been discussed round the supper table,it certainly didn't bode well with Sheila. If you put yourself in her position where at first she thought there was a chance ( in her own mind ) that she and Colin would get back together. Then her mother suggesting foster care in the event that Sheila goes convalescing. The illness which already had a stronghold. Debts mounting because there was no work.
I honestly don't think that Sheila could hack the fact that Colin and his girlfriend would be taking her boys away from her for their holidays. Would anyone if they were being honest and had the added health problems too ?

There's a possibility that I saw reference to Christine's call on the red forum some time back.

Here we go again! 

[guest154]

Here we go again! 

New claim every day. It's not believable any longer.

I haven't read the red forum for a long time but I doubt whatever, if anything, was said matches up with what is being claimed.

Good point Apes, I don't see why Sheila would give her that telephone number.

Also there is no proof as to what conversation occurred around the supper table, or if the family even sat down and had a conversation.

[Jane]

Personally I couldn't think of anything more cruel than for June to tell Sheila that she was an unfit mother.
Did anyone know for sure what was to become of the twins ? Whatever had been discussed round the supper table,it certainly didn't bode well with Sheila. If you put yourself in her position where at first she thought there was a chance ( in her own mind ) that she and Colin would get back together. Then her mother suggesting foster care in the event that Sheila goes convalescing. The illness which already had a stronghold. Debts mounting because there was no work.
I honestly don't think that Sheila could hack the fact that Colin and his girlfriend would be taking her boys away from her for their holidays. Would anyone if they were being honest and had the added health problems too ?

There's a possibility that I saw reference to Christine's call on the red forum some time back.

Yeh, I can see that this may have descended into a game of tit for tat between two adult women, but exactly when do you think Sheila decided to take her revenge on June and Neville by contacting Christine to ask her specifically to phone her at WHF. We can only speculate about what went on round the supper table and whatever it was going on -or NOT going on- between Colin and Sheila had nothing to do with Christine. Sheila had gone to endless lengths, to keep secret, what turned out to be a fleeting relationship with Christine and as Christine had told her there couldn't be an ongoing relationship it's highly unlikely that she'd have phoned her. Imagine if June or Neville had answered!!!!!

Perhaps you did read something about Christine on red though I doubt it had to do with a phone call Sheila was expecting from her at WHF and you are the only one who's mentioned it here.

[lookout]

Here we go again! 

I KNEW you wouldn't believe what I posted,even less so as it's on Jeremy's wit stat.

[lookout]

New claim every day. It's not believable any longer.

I haven't read the red forum for a long time but I doubt whatever, if anything, was said matches up with what is being claimed.

Good point Apes, I don't see why Sheila would give her that telephone number.

Also there is no proof as to what conversation occurred around the supper table, or if the family even sat down and had a conversation.

Don't effing well read it then !!