Police log contents, and position of bodies in photographs don't add up, CRIKEY.

[scipio_usmc]

No, Jeremy stated he called the police immediately after he received a call from his father. That use of "immediately" was one of the minor mistakes. He tried to call his father back, etc., so his call to the police was not immediate. He gave the time of 3:25 for when he called Julie further on in his statement, but that doesn't imply that his call to Julie occurred after he called the police if the time of 3:10 he gave for his father's call was inaccurate. At the time, it would have made sense for Jeremy to use time information given to him by the police to help him estimate when events occurred, as it wouldn't have occurred to him that the police had given him inaccurate information.

All you are doing is lying on purpose to change the meaning of Jeremy's words though they are crystal clear.  You also keep ignoring his trial testimony.

At trial he stated he phoned Chelmsford BEFORE Julie.  You are stuck with his claims you don't get to change them for him.  He stated expressly at trial that he called CHemslfrod first.

His statement clearly asserts the same.  He asserted Neivll phoned at 3:10 tha the immediately called Chelmsford and then later after getting off the phone with police called Julie at 3:25.  Your claim he called Witham right after and got no answer then waited 10 plus minutes to call Julie and after that called Chelmsford is not in any way, shape or form supported by his statement.  Your games demonstrate you are so biased you are revising Jeremy's testimony and claims so you can then pretend Nevill called police.  You are so biased you make up things to try to pretend Jeremy is innocent.  All that does is reflect poorly on you and how weak your position is that you have to make up lies to pretend your position is tenable.

Let's review your stupid suggestion:

Nevill phoning  and then calling Julie at 3:25 and calling Chelmsford at 3:36 constitutes Jeremy calling Chelmsford right away after being called by Nevill- no not on this planet.  On this planet immediately means right after not with intervening events.

Jeremy was very clear in his statement and also in his testimony.  Instead of accepting his testimony and working from it you misrepresent it and pretend he said something he didn't.  All this does is demonstrate your dishonestly and desperation.

 

[notsure]

Liar, lying. Dishonest. Meaningless. Desperate. Pathetic.stupid. madeup. Zero evidence. Gibberish.pointless. No credibility!!!!!

These are just a few of the words, expressions you have recently used when replying to Miks posts.

Scip you are obvioulsy knowledgeable in this case.

You also very clever with your language skills.

however i think i prefer it when Mike just blurts out what he thinks of you. For me its like you enjoy  making  Mike look small, you put hi, down in an extraordinary way which i believe makes you feel poweful.

please stop it as for me its like a form of abuse worse than when Mike unleashes a foul mouth tirade.

[notsure]

Please also try and remember that everyone is entitled to believe want they want. You might be wrong god forbid!

[lookout]

He WILL be wrong,of that I'm certain.

[Jane]

He WILL be wrong,of that I'm certain.

In your dreams, Lookout

[susan]

Liar, lying. Dishonest. Meaningless. Desperate. Pathetic.stupid. madeup. Zero evidence. Gibberish.pointless. No credibility!!!!!

These are just a few of the words, expressions you have recently used when replying to Miks posts.

Scip you are obvioulsy knowledgeable in this case.

You also very clever with your language skills.

however i think i prefer it when Mike just blurts out what he thinks of you. For me its like you enjoy  making  Mike look small, you put hi, down in an extraordinary way which i believe makes you feel poweful.

please stop it as for me its like a form of abuse worse than when Mike unleashes a foul mouth tirade.

You obviously have not seen some of the language Mike has used on Scipio it would have been deleted but I can assure you it made Scipio's words look like they belonged in the nursery.  I don't think for one moment Scipio does anything to make Mike look small he is  posting facts as he sees them.

[scipio_usmc]

Liar, lying. Dishonest. Meaningless. Desperate. Pathetic.stupid. madeup. Zero evidence. Gibberish.pointless. No credibility!!!!!

These are just a few of the words, expressions you have recently used when replying to Miks posts.

Scip you are obvioulsy knowledgeable in this case.

You also very clever with your language skills.

however i think i prefer it when Mike just blurts out what he thinks of you. For me its like you enjoy  making  Mike look small, you put hi, down in an extraordinary way which i believe makes you feel poweful.

please stop it as for me its like a form of abuse worse than when Mike unleashes a foul mouth tirade.

I call a spade a spade.  If people post lies I am going to point such out and call them lies not pretend that the people just might have accidentally made up things through innocent error.

When Mike is not content with what is in a statement he makes up the statements assert something they do not.  When such statements have been posted publicly and thus his claims can be proven false he asserts the publicly released statements were doctored- which is particularly funny because half if not more of these statements were posted by Mike himself when he thought there was something useful in them for his agenda.  He swore up and down they were accurate then after they are used against them disclaims them.

Most of what he claims is outlandish but as of late he has stepped it up a notch including most recently asserting that DRB/1 was established as a placeholder simply and was not assigned to any exhibit in particular until the moderators taken by police during the middle of the trial were taken from the Boutflours and then it was assigned to them. 

When he makes up things that bad it insults our intelligence.
 

 

[scipio_usmc]

Please also try and remember that everyone is entitled to believe want they want. You might be wrong god forbid!

I might be wrong about what? 

Mike might not have made up having a former police officer provide information to him?

Mike might not have made up seeing a photo of Sheila in bed?

Mike might not have made up his claims that Cook labeled the moderator Jones gave him on July 13 SJ/1?

Mike might not have made up his claim that there were multiple moderators at WHF?

Mike might not have made up his claim that police shot Sheila and then casings and bullets were swapped?

There is a better chance of there being an Easter Bunny than these claims being true.

[notsure]

I think you are wrong. Mike is obviously as passionate as scip in what they believe.  Mike justs blurts out a load of foul language beccause he cant find the words to get one up on scip. He doesnt have the language skills.

Scip is clever, doesnt lose his temper and posts with continious digs humiliating mike delibedately.

It is said that anger is the precious gift to the impossible person.
 
if you want to know what an impossible person is look itup.

[notsure]

Scip you love it

without mike who would you have to argue with and demean.

you could be wrong about everything . It is possibly you know!

[Jane]

I think you are wrong. Mike is obviously as passionate as scip in what they believe.  Mike justs blurts out a load of foul language beccause he cant find the words to get one up on scip. He doesnt have the language skills.

Scip is clever, doesnt lose his temper and posts with continious digs humiliating mike delibedately.

It is said that anger is the precious gift to the impossible person.
 
if you want to know what an impossible person is look itup.

I'm not entirely certain that Mike does believe that what he says is 100% true because he extricates himself very competently by saying that what he writes are his present thoughts, as in a diary, and if he should say something contradictory the following day it doesn't mean his previous words were lies. I'm inclined to think that Mike often throws it out there to see what happens and objects in the strongest terms when he's questioned too closely.

[susan]

I think you are wrong. Mike is obviously as passionate as scip in what they believe.  Mike justs blurts out a load of foul language beccause he cant find the words to get one up on scip. He doesnt have the language skills.

Scip is clever, doesnt lose his temper and posts with continious digs humiliating mike delibedately.

It is said that anger is the precious gift to the impossible person.
 
if you want to know what an impossible person is look itup.

Excuse me I don't need to look up what an impossible person is.  I have no intention of arguing with you I prefer to debate the case not posters on the forum.

[notsure]

Lol  this site does entertain me if nothing else.

[Jane]

Lol  this site does entertain me if nothing else.

Then I suggest you sit back and enjoy the show

[scipio_usmc]

I think you are wrong. Mike is obviously as passionate as scip in what they believe.  Mike justs blurts out a load of foul language beccause he cant find the words to get one up on scip. He doesnt have the language skills.

Scip is clever, doesnt lose his temper and posts with continious digs humiliating mike delibedately.

It is said that anger is the precious gift to the impossible person.
 
if you want to know what an impossible person is look itup.

I doubt Mike believes any of things he posts- obviously he knows factual claims he made up are false but I doubt he believes the unsupported allegations he didn't make up personally either. People make up things when they don't believe they have a solid position. Mike posts to garner attention for himself and to foll people into thinking Jeremy is innocent which I personally think his main goal in so doing is to build up his own reputation as opposed to genuinely caring about Jeremy.

People said something interesting, Mike wanted a publicity photo with Jeremy and it pissed Jeremy off.  Why do people want photos with fans it is for the fan or so they could aggrandize themselves saying to other fans look I got a photo with them I am more important than you?

Most of what Mike posts are allegations previously made long ago and proven false in 1991. It is quite dishonest to repeat these things without revealing they were already made and discredited but worse he suggests these are new things he thought up recently which can be used to try to secure Jeremy's freedom.  The claims are useless to Jeremy they failed when COLP investigated and refuted them.

Some of Mike's claims have been taken from the lies on the Bamber campaign site and that poppy site The only claims Mike has come up with on his own have been made up entirely. He made up that Cook's COLP statement indicated he labeled the moderator SJ/1.  He made up seeing a photo of Sheila in bed.  He made up a police informant feeding him information about how police shot Sheila and staged the scene to pretend it never happened and swapped casings and bullets to conceal it and planted evidence in the moderator.  How do these lies benefit Jeremy? Jeremy can't use lies he needs evidence. The benefit accrues to those who are desperate for attention and thus make various claims. People seem to enjoy being part of a cause and any cause will do even if they have to manufacture one. In the most extreme this is exhibited by malcontents who jump from protest to protest not even caring about that underlying issue they just become professional troublemakers who join any protest they can find or are busy organizing such protests.  You will see some of the same people in crowds fomenting trouble. These people just move around city to city when they find a new issue where they can whip people up.