Michael Fielder Proven liar

[Caroline]

Colin speaks about the incident in his book...... 

You just made me laugh out loud.

Fielder either had a time machine or a DeLorean 

[guest154]

Fielder either had a time machine or a DeLorean 

Or a meeting with Bamber!

I know which one my money is on.

[nugnug]

Fielder either had a time machine or a DeLorean 

did fielder say this in the orgnal aritcal or in later interviews.

[lookout]

Where is it documented that he did?

OWS.

[nugnug]

dont you also think theres a good chance that fielder has seen colins statements.

[Jane]

OWS.

Well they would, wouldn't they? I wonder where is their proof.

[lookout]

Well they would, wouldn't they? I wonder where is their proof.

I've no idea but the site reckons that everything is documented which is good enough for me.More than can be said for the books that appear. Where's their documentation or proof that what they've written is Kosher ?

[Jane]

I've no idea but the site reckons that everything is documented which is good enough for me.More than can be said for the books that appear. Where's their documentation or proof that what they've written is Kosher ?

Lookout, THIS, on your part, would seem to be a change of stance. I distinctly recall that you once said you would rather get your information from books and web sites than rely on the documentation available here. I, on the other hand, FREQUENTLY challenge the information given by authors who knew NONE of the family and write the "truth" years after the event.

As for THE site, they MAY say that everything THEY say is documented but without proof of it HOW are we supposed to know? And you reckon YOU challenge everything?

[lookout]

Well they would, wouldn't they? I wonder where is their proof.

I've no idea but the site reckons that everything is documented which is good enough for me.More than can be said for the books that appear. Where's their documentation or proof that what they've written is Kosher ?

[scipio_usmc]

I've no idea but the site reckons that everything is documented which is good enough for me.More than can be said for the books that appear. Where's their documentation or proof that what they've written is Kosher ?

The sources listed don't stand for the propositions asserted on the site.  They distort everything to pretend things are how they wish they were instead of how they actually were. 

Just one example- a log states police were in conversation with those in the house but no one in the house responded. By definition since no one in the house responded they were not actually in a conversation with anyone it was a poor choice of words.  The police used a megaphone to speak to those inside the house but received no response.  This was carelessly worded as police in conversation with those inside the house.  But the careless wording was CORRECTED by noting no response was received from those inside.  The campaign site neglects to mention the second part of the entry noting no one inside and dishonestly asserts someone inside was communicating with the police.  This is done  in order to deceive people into thinking Sheila was alive inside and was communicating with police.  This is thoroughly dishonest the log doesn't support such at all it clearly states no response was received. They fail to actually post a copy of the log in question so that people can see they are lying.  Instead they just say things like "see log".  We have the actual log on this site and this is the actual complete entry:

   

Everything on the site is spin and distortion and why does the site resort to spin and distortion?  Because they have nothing legitimate to raise that suggests Jeremy is innocent.

[nugnug]

hes posted somthing on a white background agian and we are supposed to be impressed.

[lookout]

The sources listed don't stand for the propositions asserted on the site.  They distort everything to pretend things are how they wish they were instead of how they actually were. 

Just one example- a log states police were in conversation with those in the house but no one in the house responded. By definition since no one in the house responded they were not actually in a conversation with anyone it was a poor choice of words.  The police used a megaphone to speak to those inside the house but received no response.  This was carelessly worded as police in conversation with those inside the house.  But the careless wording was CORRECTED by noting no response was received from those inside.  The campaign site neglects to mention the second part of the entry noting no one inside and dishonestly asserts someone inside was communicating with the police.  This is done  in order to deceive people into thinking Sheila was alive inside and was communicating with police.  This is thoroughly dishonest the log doesn't support such at all it clearly states no response was received. They fail to actually post a copy of the log in question so that people can see they are lying.  Instead they just say things like "see log".  We have the actual log on this site and this is the actual complete entry:

   

Everything on the site is spin and distortion and why does the site resort to spin and distortion?  Because they have nothing legitimate to raise that suggests Jeremy is innocent.

After that handwritten hurried note,why did they wait nearly 4 hours after the " no response " bit ?

[scipio_usmc]

hes posted somthing on a white background agian and we are supposed to be impressed.

I posted the very log entry the site relies on for the bogus claim tha tsomeone inside the house was speaking to police.

I thus proved the site to be lying about this entry supporting their claim that someone inside the house was speaking to police.

Your bias prevents you from being objective or rational but luckily such is not contagious.  I debate by posting facts and evidence while you respond with remarks like this that have no merit at all.  You are like a hood ornament here you never have anything of value to contribute to the debate. Try refuting my post with other evidence or something substantive.  Nope tha tis beyond you, all you are capable of is worthless snyde remarks.   

[nugnug]

you cliam to have we have know way of knowing weather you have or not.

youve proved abslutly nothing.

[scipio_usmc]

After that handwritten hurried note,why did they wait nearly 4 hours after the " no response " bit ?

That notation of no response was when they requested more officers so that they could raid the house.  They said since no one was responding they would likely need to go inside but Adams didn't have enough men on scene to raid the house and still contain the scene as well so requested more. That is when the second firearms team was assembled. They arrived around 7am at which time a plan was made, the raid team was selected the others were positioned at the containment sites and then at 7:30 they entered.