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Re: Michael Fielder Proven liar
« Reply #420 on: June 14, 2015, 12:34:PM »
Unless it's planned/scripted/embedded in your brain, you don't.

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Re: Michael Fielder Proven liar
« Reply #421 on: June 14, 2015, 12:49:PM »





Neville did.

Oh really?  ;D ;D ;D ;D and how do you know this?
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Re: Michael Fielder Proven liar
« Reply #422 on: June 14, 2015, 12:52:PM »
how likely is it that somone is going to use iexactly the same sentence when talking to  diffrent people.

Very if they're describing the same thing! Not sure what you're getting at Nugs? Firstly you say you would be inclined to believe Colin, not you're questioning what he said! It's in his statement or are you suggesting he must be lying?
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Re: Michael Fielder Proven liar
« Reply #423 on: June 14, 2015, 01:13:PM »
you said jeremy used exactly the same words to describe the pictures to colin and fielder.

now where did fielder say exactly the same thing as colin was it in the arical he wrote or on the documentry.
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Re: Michael Fielder Proven liar
« Reply #424 on: June 14, 2015, 01:22:PM »





Neville did.


Where is it documented that he did?

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Re: Michael Fielder Proven liar
« Reply #425 on: June 14, 2015, 01:26:PM »
you said jeremy used exactly the same words to describe the pictures to colin and fielder.

Colin said it both in his book and in his statement - and? I posted the extract from the book, his statement is available for you to read. What more do you want?
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Re: Michael Fielder Proven liar
« Reply #426 on: June 14, 2015, 01:30:PM »
  That is a good point nugs. It all seems so unlikely and rests on so little "evidence" that the whole claim can be regarded as highly unlikely.
    It is hard to believe that this is such an article of faith amongst many who believe JB guilty.

well i can think of a reason why colin and fielder description might be the same and its ver obvios when i think about it.

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Re: Michael Fielder Proven liar
« Reply #427 on: June 14, 2015, 01:33:PM »
well i can think of a reason why colin and fielder description might be the same and its ver obvios when i think about it.



You're surely not trying to make Colin part of the Great Conspiracy, too, Nugs :o ::) ::) ::)

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Re: Michael Fielder Proven liar
« Reply #428 on: June 14, 2015, 01:36:PM »
no not at all but its there simple when you think about it.

does fielder actully use the same description in the originall articale he wrote or just on the documentry.

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Re: Michael Fielder Proven liar
« Reply #429 on: June 14, 2015, 01:41:PM »
no not at all but its there simple when you think about it.

does fielder actully use the same description in the originall articale he wrote or just on the documentry.

Colin said he used the exact words in the article. In order to know for SURE, we would have to try and get a copy.
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Re: Michael Fielder Proven liar
« Reply #430 on: June 14, 2015, 01:46:PM »
no not at all but its there simple when you think about it.

does fielder actully use the same description in the originall articale he wrote or just on the documentry.



I'm trying to get my head round why this would matter. Jeremy had already said the words to Colin which is why he -Colin- was able to recognize the words Fielder attributed to Jeremy were the same words Jeremy had used previously, to him. IMO, the expression Fielder used in the, much later, documentary is neither here nor there..................although it's my experience that I tend to use words and expression that I've previously put in writing.

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Re: Michael Fielder Proven liar
« Reply #431 on: June 14, 2015, 01:59:PM »
do you think it might just be posble that has had a read of colins book as well.

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Re: Michael Fielder Proven liar
« Reply #432 on: June 14, 2015, 02:00:PM »


I'm trying to get my head round why this would matter. Jeremy had already said the words to Colin which is why he -Colin- was able to recognize the words Fielder attributed to Jeremy were the same words Jeremy had used previously, to him. IMO, the expression Fielder used in the, much later, documentary is neither here nor there..................although it's my experience that I tend to use words and expression that I've previously put in writing.

That's it in a nutshell April BUT, it all looks bad on Jeremy so it has to be played down or dismissed altogether. However, it can't be dismissed because it's Colin who is making the claim and not Fielder. Some people will still try and play it down or even go so far as to try and discredit Colin but it's just denial and kind of shows that people aren't interested in the truth, just interested in Jeremy being innocent - at whatever cost.
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Re: Michael Fielder Proven liar
« Reply #433 on: June 14, 2015, 02:05:PM »
do you think it might just be posble that has had a read of colins book as well.

You've lost me. Colin's book was written in the 1990's how could Fielder see it? (unless he had a time machine?). Colin's statement (however), was written a few days after the Sun article. Colin mentions in the statement that Fielder documented what Jeremy told him at the meeting 'You see everything right down to the last detail'. These words were also used to describe the pictures by Jeremy to Colin on 7th September. It's easy enough to understand!
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Re: Michael Fielder Proven liar
« Reply #434 on: June 14, 2015, 02:07:PM »
do you think it might just be posble that has had a read of colins book as well.

 ;D

Colin speaks about the incident in his book......  ;D

You just made me laugh out loud.