Michael Fielder Proven liar

[guest154]

Jeremy had no need to bag up the twins belongings like he did. Gives you an insight into his mind, he didn't care!

Thanks for posting the pages, Caroline.

[Caroline]

Jeremy had no need to bag up the twins belongings like he did. Gives you an insight into his mind, he didn't care!

Thanks for posting the pages, Caroline.

Cheers Mat, no problem, not sure why a couple of them decided to liay down! They aren't like that on my lap top, just when I uploaded them.

I agree about JB, very telling!

[Jan]

And yet Colin also wrote about how Jeremy was the only one sympathetic to how he wanted to conduct the twins funerals and how the family were in his view very cold  towards Sheilas ceremony . 

So all that shows is how you can pick and chose from his book to use the bits you want.

Book reviews are very personal - I know what I think about his book -others will have a different interpretation .

[gringo]

is it possble for somone to post an extract of colins book so we can all see his exact words.

   No matter what JB did or didn't do would be painted as bad, Nugs. From the extracts and, more importantly, the statements there is no dispute that Colin didn't visit Sheila's flat to collect or do anything until a month after the murders.
    It is somewhat harsh to criticise Jeremy for putting the twins belongings into black bags. What was he supposed to put them in? What are the rules? Should he leave it until Colin decides the time is right? I think he is damned here whatever he does.
   Colin's recollections in the book are coloured by a hindsight that has been influenced by events. His initial reaction was that Sheila "had finally done it" and it is worth noting that his opinion only started to change after JB's arrest and negative stories in the press along with the family plotting and "ganging up on him". It is self evident that at this time that Colin still believed Sheila responsible and that he felt that the family were motivated by financial interests. However it is painted, Colin believed the relatives were attempting to blame Jeremy and this was motivated by money and not a true belief in his guilt.
    His own recollections are also self serving. In his statement Colin talks of his disappointment at not having had the opportunity to buy some of the more valuable antiques from the flat as he and his mother would have been interested in buying some, as they were Antique dealers.
    In the book nothing is mentioned of Colin wishing to have the opportunity to deal in some antiques but it has become all about the heritage.
    As for the pictures, why on earth should Colin be the guardian of personal photos of Sheila. She was his ex wife and he was now in another relationship. Who would think upon finding nude pictures of your dead sister that you should immediately give them to her ex husband? Colin and Sheila's relationship had broken down seemingly irretrievably so why wouldn't the pictures be kept safe at Jeremy's?
    Colin's book, wrote long after the events, may have proved cathartic for him personally but it is not a contemporaneous version and has little value as a source because it is coloured by time and events since.

[nugnug]

ive missed somthing. who is christine.

[scipio_usmc]

And yet Colin also wrote about how Jeremy was the only one sympathetic to how he wanted to conduct the twins funerals and how the family were in his view very cold  towards Sheilas ceremony . 

So all that shows is how you can pick and chose from his book to use the bits you want.

Book reviews are very personal - I know what I think about his book -others will have a different interpretation .

What you and other Jeremy supporters like to use are Colins subjective feelings like you just raised while people those who accept Jeremy's guilt point to factual claims.  It is a factual claim Jeremy moved into Sheila's flat.  It is a factual claim he didn't ask Colin if he wanted anything from the boys or even form Sheila's things.  It is a factual claim that he sold everything of value very quickly.  We draw conclusions from these factual claims.

 

[guest154]

And yet Colin also wrote about how Jeremy was the only one sympathetic to how he wanted to conduct the twins funerals and how the family were in his view very cold  towards Sheilas ceremony . 

So all that shows is how you can pick and chose from his book to use the bits you want.

Book reviews are very personal - I know what I think about his book -others will have a different interpretation .

I don't think she, or anyone, is picking and choosing  dependant on what makes Jeremy look good or bad.....but she posted the pages about the photos because that's what this topic is actually about.

[lookout]

And yet Colin also wrote about how Jeremy was the only one sympathetic to how he wanted to conduct the twins funerals and how the family were in his view very cold  towards Sheilas ceremony . 

So all that shows is how you can pick and chose from his book to use the bits you want.

Book reviews are very personal - I know what I think about his book -others will have a different interpretation .

I know what I think of the book too,particularly the robin scenario. Far-fetched !!

[lookout]

   No matter what JB did or didn't do would be painted as bad, Nugs. From the extracts and, more importantly, the statements there is no dispute that Colin didn't visit Sheila's flat to collect or do anything until a month after the murders.
    It is somewhat harsh to criticise Jeremy for putting the twins belongings into black bags. What was he supposed to put them in? What are the rules? Should he leave it until Colin decides the time is right? I think he is damned here whatever he does.
   Colin's recollections in the book are coloured by a hindsight that has been influenced by events. His initial reaction was that Sheila "had finally done it" and it is worth noting that his opinion only started to change after JB's arrest and negative stories in the press along with the family plotting and "ganging up on him". It is self evident that at this time that Colin still believed Sheila responsible and that he felt that the family were motivated by financial interests. However it is painted, Colin believed the relatives were attempting to blame Jeremy and this was motivated by money and not a true belief in his guilt.
    His own recollections are also self serving. In his statement Colin talks of his disappointment at not having had the opportunity to buy some of the more valuable antiques from the flat as he and his mother would have been interested in buying some, as they were Antique dealers.
    In the book nothing is mentioned of Colin wishing to have the opportunity to deal in some antiques but it has become all about the heritage.
    As for the pictures, why on earth should Colin be the guardian of personal photos of Sheila. She was his ex wife and he was now in another relationship. Who would think upon finding nude pictures of your dead sister that you should immediately give them to her ex husband? Colin and Sheila's relationship had broken down seemingly irretrievably so why wouldn't the pictures be kept safe at Jeremy's?
    Colin's book, wrote long after the events, may have proved cathartic for him personally but it is not a contemporaneous version and has little value as a source because it is coloured by time and events since.

Agreed,Gringo.

[Adam]

And yet Colin also wrote about how Jeremy was the only one sympathetic to how he wanted to conduct the twins funerals and how the family were in his view very cold  towards Sheilas ceremony . 

So all that shows is how you can pick and chose from his book to use the bits you want.

Book reviews are very personal - I know what I think about his book -others will have a different interpretation .

Jan you must stop supporting Jeremy.

He has a warped and callous mind and is evil beyond belief.

[lookout]

 There's something radically wrong with you,unless you expect a financial result by turning everyone to support his guilt. That wouldn't surprise me----------------an ulterior motive.!! But you're WRONG.

[Jan]

I don't think she, or anyone, is picking and choosing  dependant on what makes Jeremy look good or bad.....but she posted the pages about the photos because that's what this topic is actually about.

Oh sorry I forgot no one ever goes off topic .And it is still relevant as they were commented on as an indication of his character - so I think to balance it out is fair.

[Jan]

Jan you must stop supporting Jeremy.

He has a warped and callous mind and is evil beyond belief.

Adam you must stop supporting Julie - she is a proven liar and supported a child killer.

[nugnug]

   No matter what JB did or didn't do would be painted as bad, Nugs. From the extracts and, more importantly, the statements there is no dispute that Colin didn't visit Sheila's flat to collect or do anything until a month after the murders.
    It is somewhat harsh to criticise Jeremy for putting the twins belongings into black bags. What was he supposed to put them in? What are the rules? Should he leave it until Colin decides the time is right? I think he is damned here whatever he does.
   Colin's recollections in the book are coloured by a hindsight that has been influenced by events. His initial reaction was that Sheila "had finally done it" and it is worth noting that his opinion only started to change after JB's arrest and negative stories in the press along with the family plotting and "ganging up on him". It is self evident that at this time that Colin still believed Sheila responsible and that he felt that the family were motivated by financial interests. However it is painted, Colin believed the relatives were attempting to blame Jeremy and this was motivated by money and not a true belief in his guilt.
    His own recollections are also self serving. In his statement Colin talks of his disappointment at not having had the opportunity to buy some of the more valuable antiques from the flat as he and his mother would have been interested in buying some, as they were Antique dealers.
    In the book nothing is mentioned of Colin wishing to have the opportunity to deal in some antiques but it has become all about the heritage.
    As for the pictures, why on earth should Colin be the guardian of personal photos of Sheila. She was his ex wife and he was now in another relationship. Who would think upon finding nude pictures of your dead sister that you should immediately give them to her ex husband? Colin and Sheila's relationship had broken down seemingly irretrievably so why wouldn't the pictures be kept safe at Jeremy's?
    Colin's book, wrote long after the events, may have proved cathartic for him personally but it is not a contemporaneous version and has little value as a source because it is coloured by time and events since.

it would on weather his book was consitant with his statements i dont think hed have any reason to lie in ethere years later he could of got a couple of things wrong.

[Caroline]

And yet Colin also wrote about how Jeremy was the only one sympathetic to how he wanted to conduct the twins funerals and how the family were in his view very cold  towards Sheilas ceremony . 

So all that shows is how you can pick and chose from his book to use the bits you want.

Book reviews are very personal - I know what I think about his book -others will have a different interpretation .

Jeremy's FAKE sympathy lasted only as far as the funeral. Do you think that bagging up the twins belongings in bin liners was fitting?