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Re: Michael Fielder Proven liar
« Reply #300 on: June 10, 2015, 04:08:PM »
Psychopaths are good at emulating "normal" behaviour - this is not an example of that.
Jeremy having just killed his whole family and staged his two shot murder of his sister as a suicide, then stands outside the crime scene and tells the cops that he didn´t like his sister much.
Then he proceeds to try to sell pornographic pictures of her = stupid!

Ok, he's a stupid psychopath then!
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Re: Michael Fielder Proven liar
« Reply #301 on: June 10, 2015, 04:16:PM »
Wouldn't cyclepath be more appropriate ? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

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Re: Michael Fielder Proven liar
« Reply #302 on: June 10, 2015, 06:47:PM »
He may as well have just said he did it,and be done with-------------such an EASY investigation. ::)

well it would be a pretty insane thing to do when you allready know your a suspect.

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Re: Michael Fielder Proven liar
« Reply #303 on: June 10, 2015, 06:58:PM »
  It would be almost certain that the police would have found the slides themselves anyway, Jan. When Jeremy was arrested his house at Goldhanger would have been searched. Allegedly this is where the slides were so EP would have found them. How the Sun would find out about them then is anyone's guess.

No one needs to guess, Jeremy told the Sun but I doubt very much they were at Goldhanger, he probably just told Colin that so he didn't have to hand them over - he had plans for them!
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« Reply #304 on: June 10, 2015, 07:10:PM »
   I find it odd that anyone is willing to believe this story on the scant evidence offered. We know of two stories(apart from this  one) that Fielder has "reported" on. On both of these occasions(Carmen Proetta and Colin Stagg) Fielders "reporting" consisted of lying about people and trashing their reputations with made up stories and slurs against them seemingly on behalf of the powerful against the weak. There seem to be no examples of any noteworthy reporting done by Fielder.
   In his story in the Sun about Bamber, Fielder allegedly, and at best, uses nine words that are supposedly used by Bamber to Colin. Of the how ever many hundred more words in his article, nothing is said. Perhaps this is because the allegations are so wild and sleazy(and obviously made up by Fielder- It was apparently his MO) that they show Fielder to be the obvious liar that he demonstrated himself to be on the, so far, two previous occasions that we know of his "reporting".
    So we know he made up 100% of the allegations against Carmen Proetta and Colin Stagg. Much of the article in the Sun was clearly made up by Fielder(sex toys etc.).
    Who in their right mind would believe Fielder on the basis of nine words allegedly "ringing true" when we now know that everything that we are aware of him writing has been 100% lies.
   

There you go again, misrepresenting and creating propaganda. You found one story that was questionable but you don't know that Fielder lied at all. You don't know where the accusations originated from but to suit YOUR agenda, you present the lie as coming from Fielder when he simply reported it. What lies did he tell about Colin Stagg? Did Fielder accuse CS of killing Rachel Nickel? I thought that was the police aided by Paul Brittan? Did Fielder come up with the idea of Operation Edzel? I thought that was the police influenced by Paul Brittan? CS was indeed hounded by the press - not JUST the Sun and even after the case was thrown out of court, he was assumed to be the killer because Rachel's father announced that they weren't looking for anyone else, which made it sound like CS got away with murder. However, you seem to know about some 'specific lies' Fielder is responsible for? I'd be interested to hear what they were/are?

Back to Bamber - just nine words eh? Yep, nine words formed into a specific sentece "They show everything, right down to the last detail". They aren't just nine random words like you're trying to insinuate, it's a sentence, in two parts. Absolutely NO WAY could both parties come up with SAME sentence by coincidence and to suggest such is a REALLY desperate attempt to try and cover the truth. The truth being that Jeremy tried to sell private, compromising  pictures of his dead sister to The Sun.
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Re: Michael Fielder Proven liar
« Reply #305 on: June 10, 2015, 07:32:PM »
There you go again, misrepresenting and creating propaganda. You found one story that was questionable but you don't know that Fielder lied at all. You don't know where the accusations originated from but to suit YOUR agenda, you present the lie as coming from Fielder when he simply reported it. What lies did he tell about Colin Stagg? Did Fielder accuse CS of killing Rachel Nickel? I thought that was the police aided by Paul Brittan? Did Fielder come up with the idea of Operation Edzel? I thought that was the police influenced by Paul Brittan? CS was indeed hounded by the press - not JUST the Sun and even after the case was thrown out of court, he was assumed to be the killer because Rachel's father announced that they weren't looking for anyone else, which made it sound like CS got away with murder. However, you seem to know about some 'specific lies' Fielder is responsible for? I'd be interested to hear what they were/are?

Back to Bamber - just nine words eh? Yep, nine words formed into a specific sentece "They show everything, right down to the last detail". They aren't just nine random words like you're trying to insinuate, it's a sentence, in two parts. Absolutely NO WAY could both parties come up with SAME sentence by coincidence and to suggest such is a REALLY desperate attempt to try and cover the truth. The truth being that Jeremy tried to sell private, compromising  pictures of his dead sister to The Sun.

At some point you mentioned something about a cucumber - did Jeremy say this to both Colin and this sleaze-reporter?

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Re: Michael Fielder Proven liar
« Reply #306 on: June 10, 2015, 07:33:PM »
I think some kind of sex toy was mentioned.

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« Reply #307 on: June 10, 2015, 07:35:PM »
At some point you mentioned something about a cucumber - did Jeremy say this to both Colin and this sleaze-reporter?

No idea, if he mentioned it to Colin, I doubt Colin would comment on that out of respect for Sheila.
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Re: Michael Fielder Proven liar
« Reply #308 on: June 10, 2015, 07:35:PM »
I think some kind of sex toy was mentioned.

Jan think I read a vibrator and cucumber were mentioned :'( Jan I replied to your post earlier but sent it to myself :'( blame the hot sun.

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« Reply #309 on: June 10, 2015, 07:36:PM »
I think some kind of sex toy was mentioned.

Caroline said to me at one point that Jeremy had mentioned a cucumber (and something else, can´t remember) to both sleazeball and Colin.

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« Reply #310 on: June 10, 2015, 07:37:PM »
No idea, if he mentioned it to Colin, I doubt Colin would comment on that out of respect for Sheila.

I think you used it as an argument that Jeremy had said the same to CC and Sun.

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Re: Michael Fielder Proven liar
« Reply #311 on: June 10, 2015, 07:38:PM »
Caroline said to me at one point that Jeremy had mentioned a cucumber (and something else, can´t remember) to both sleazeball and Colin.

I said he mentioned the same sentence.
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Re: Michael Fielder Proven liar
« Reply #312 on: June 10, 2015, 07:39:PM »
Jan think I read a vibrator and cucumber were mentioned :'( Jan I replied to your post earlier but sent it to myself :'( blame the hot sun.


 :) it happens to us all.

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Re: Michael Fielder Proven liar
« Reply #313 on: June 10, 2015, 07:41:PM »
I said he mentioned the same sentence.

And I asked what it was specifically - and you replied as you did with the cucumber and something else. But he didn´t.

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« Reply #314 on: June 10, 2015, 07:42:PM »
I have made it clear what Jeremy told Fielder and Colin, I've written the sentence about 20 times. I have linked witness statements and copied passages from books. You have seen the video where Fielder mentions a cucumber yourself. I have no idea if this was mentioned to Colin other than they were described as pornographic.
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