Michael Fielder Proven liar

[lookout]

Although it was less than the grand Jeremy nicked from the family business and not quite as distasteful as trying to sell pictures of your recently murdered sister!!

I'm beginning to feel sorry for you and the " selling of pictures ". Is that ALL you can say to get your guilty point across ? It must be the hundredth time you've said it----------------unbelievable.
Not forgetting that JM was with Jeremy when he broke into that office.She didn't exactly leg-it off to the police or anything,whereas Jeremy knew nothing about the cheque escapade.

[Alias]

There is  MASSIVE difference;

It was Jeremy's sister, not Bretts.

Jeremy was SUPPOSED to be grieving, Brett didn't know the family from Adam.

Jeremy talked about being able to 'see everything' about his dead sister, Brett went along for the ride.

I can't believe that people are still making excuses for Jeremy after what he did and it's clear that he did try and sell those pictures!!

Not making excuses - just finding it all a tad unlikely.
If my friend´s sister had just been killed/committed suicide, and he wanted to sell pornographic pictures of her to a sleaze mag, I am sure I would protest wildly!
Even though you aren´t related or even knew the family, you would find it wildly out of order.

[Caroline]

I'm beginning to feel sorry for you and the " selling of pictures ". Is that ALL you can say to get your guilty point across ? It must be the hundredth time you've said it----------------unbelievable.
Not forgetting that JM was with Jeremy when he broke into that office.She didn't exactly leg-it off to the police or anything,whereas Jeremy knew nothing about the cheque escapade.

Don't feel sorry for me Lookout, I didn't try selling pictures of a dead relative to scrape some cash together for a bit of a hol. I guess you don't feel sorry for gringo, or anyone else who keeps trying to deny that Jeremy tried to sell pictures of his murdered sister? You should because all their attempts to try and disprove it, have fallen flat because Jeremy used the same phrase to both Colin and Fielder when he described the picies. I don't think you don't feel sorry for me Lookout, you just don't like the fact that you can't argue against the the article being kosher and that it all looks bad for on Jeremy.

[Caroline]

Not making excuses - just finding it all a tad unlikely.
If my friend´s sister had just been killed/committed suicide, and he wanted to sell pornographic pictures of her to a sleaze mag, I am sure I would protest wildly!
Even though you aren´t related or even knew the family, you would find it wildly out of order.

I'm the one arguing that it IS out of order, you seem to be trying to shift the blame onto BC  . It was Jeremy's responsibility, it was his sister and he's the one who should have shown more (or even SOME) respect. The fact that BC turned out to be a scheming little shit too, doesn't ANY of the responsibility from Jeremy. The pair are grotesque but Jeremy more so!

[Alias]

I'm the one arguing that it IS out of order, you seem to be trying to shift the blame onto BC  . It was Jeremy's responsibility, it was his sister and he's the one who should have shown more (or even SOME) respect. The fact that BC turned out to be a scheming little shit too, doesn't ANY of the responsibility from Jeremy. The pair are grotesque but Jeremy more so!

I honestly cannot see how you conclude from what I write that I am trying to shift blame, but not surprised to tell the truth. You read into it what you want to see.

I am merely saying that I find it hard to believe that two people would go through with this insanity - one, OK, two, hmmm.

You are very passionate about this, aren´t you?

[Caroline]

I honestly cannot see how you conclude from what I write that I am trying to shift blame, but not surprised to tell the truth. You read into it what you want to see.

I am merely saying that I find it hard to believe that two people would go through with this insanity - one, OK, two, hmmm.

You are very passionate about this, aren´t you?

Ha, ha! No, just don't like to see the truth being brushed over.

[Alias]

Ha, ha! No, just don't like to see the truth being brushed over.

You sound passionate about it.

[Caroline]

You sound passionate about it.

You sound like a Bamber supporter so there we go!

[Alias]

You sound like a Bamber supporter so there we go!

So what? Is it a crime to be a Bamber supporter? Not that I am, but you say I am and contradicting you has no purpose, of course you know best, right. 

[Caroline]

So what? Is it a crime to be a Bamber supporter? Not that I am, but you say I am and contradicting you has no purpose, of course you know best, right. 

Not at all, you're the one who denies it  . Do you think you have a right to tell me what I'm suppose to think but I don't have the right to do the same?

I'm passionate about the truth. Nothing else.

[Alias]

Not at all, you're the one who denies it  . Do you think you have a right to tell me what I'm suppose to think but I don't have the right to do the same?

I'm passionate about the truth. Nothing else.

What is it to you what I am or - not?

You are passionate about convincing some strangers on an internet forum what you think is the truth. I don´t know why, Jeremy is already where you want him to be.

[guest154]

What is it to you what I am or - not?

You are passionate about convincing some strangers on an internet forum what you think is the truth. I don´t know why, Jeremy is already where you want him to be.

You have the right to believed what you like, Alias. But when you only put forth supporter arugements, seem unable to view the case from both sides, speak negatively about the police, the family, Colin, June & Neville ....and basically ANYONE that isn't Bamber....

..and then say "I'm on the fence!"

It's going to cause questions. 

[Caroline]

What is it to you what I am or - not?

You are passionate about convincing some strangers on an internet forum what you think is the truth. I don´t know why, Jeremy is already where you want him to be.

I don't care what your stance is to be honest but you do come over as a supporter.

I'm not trying to convince anyone - I just don't like lies! What's it to you if I want to post here? Too bad if you don't like the fact that I don't let people get away with BS - I'll continue to pick over the bones if that's OK by you?

[Stephanie]

Passion doesn't even come into it imo... It's about separating the wheat from the chaff the truth from the lies .. I've heard enough lies to last me a lifetime, so I know what I'm talking about....

I'm not here because of 'passion' I'm here to set the record straight once and for all.....

[guest154]

I'm not trying to convince anyone - I just don't like lies! What's it to you if I want to post here? Too bad if you don't like the fact that I don't let people get away with BS - I'll continue to pick over the bones if that's OK by you?

I think you've proved your point well, you have backed it up with the statement - you could post a video of the meeting and you still wouldn't convince EVERYONE here.

Personally I don't think how anyone on either side can not see what happened.  But it's a strange world!