Why did Sheila wait so long to commit suicide ?

[lookout]

She didn't kill anyone - she was murdered!

Prove it.

[Caroline]

Prove it.

You prove he didn't! A court has already convicted him - the onus is now on him to PROVE he didn't. What evidence exists to PROVE that he DIDN'T do it?

[lookout]

You prove he didn't! A court has already convicted him - the onus is now on him to PROVE he didn't. What evidence exists to PROVE that he DIDN'T do it?

Because there was no forensic evidence for starters and police didn't suspect him until the relatives joined in with their contradictions that there was nothing wrong with Sheila's mental health. So who are the police going to believe ? A family,or a" stranger " to the family ? 

[Caroline]

Because there was no forensic evidence for starters and police didn't suspect him until the relatives joined in with their contradictions that there was nothing wrong with Sheila's mental health. So who are the police going to believe ? A family,or a" stranger " to the family ?

The family didn't say there was nothing wrong with Sheila's mental health, they said she simply wasn't capable of committing the murders - especially as the weapon was a newly acquired semi- automatic rifle which she couldn't have been familiar with. Had Jeremy been able to pull of the grieving son/brother/uncle routine, hadn't bandied about his hatred of his family, knuckled down and at least TRIED to show an interest in the farm and didn't try to sell explicit pictures of his dead sister - he might have gotten away with it.

[Jane]

Because there was no forensic evidence for starters and police didn't suspect him until the relatives joined in with their contradictions that there was nothing wrong with Sheila's mental health. So who are the police going to believe ? A family,or a" stranger " to the family ?

No...........and the reason was that Jeremy had a good couple of hours in which to brain wash the police about Sheila's mental state STARTING with the alleged call from his father in which it was supposedly said that Sheila -having only JUST come out of a psychiatric hospital- had gone mad. They saw, on entry to WHF, the picture that Jeremy had painted for them. It matters little that the family MAY have said there was nothing wrong with Sheila's mental health -they weren't there at the time, anyway- because the opposite could be easily confirmed.

[Caroline]

No...........and the reason was that Jeremy had a good couple of hours in which to brain wash the police about Sheila's mental state STARTING with the alleged call from his father in which it was supposedly said that Sheila -having only JUST come out of a psychiatric hospital- had gone mad. They saw, on entry to WHF, the picture that Jeremy had painted for them. It matters little that the family MAY have said there was nothing wrong with Sheila's mental health -they weren't there at the time, anyway- because the opposite could be easily confirmed.

Of course! the reason for the original path was down to Jeremy manipulating events.

[lookout]

The thing is though,Jeremy had no idea of his sister's illness or even what she was capable of,which meant that he hadn't known what the psychiatrist had told CC,or he'd have really had a field day.It was only after,while in prison that he got to find out about her illness,through information which was gathered together for his first appeal.
As he told Eric Allison,he had no idea,nor did his parents ( although I imagine they kept a lot to themselves ) realise the extent of her illness and how she'd deteriorated in the 6 months leading up to the murders.
Jeremy hadn't known enough about Sheila to even contemplate placing any blame on her initially,so naturally it wouldn't sink in that she'd been so ill and he hadn't known,as it's been said that he first thought it was the raid team who shot his family.He WASN'T putting the blame on Sheila at all. Being innocent,he wouldn't have known what to think,as none of us would in the same position.

[Caroline]

The thing is though,Jeremy had no idea of his sister's illness or even what she was capable of,which meant that he hadn't known what the psychiatrist had told CC,or he'd have really had a field day.It was only after,while in prison that he got to find out about her illness,through information which was gathered together for his first appeal.
As he told Eric Allison,he had no idea,nor did his parents ( although I imagine they kept a lot to themselves ) realise the extent of her illness and how she'd deteriorated in the 6 months leading up to the murders.
Jeremy hadn't known enough about Sheila to even contemplate placing any blame on her initially,so naturally it wouldn't sink in that she'd been so ill and he hadn't known,as it's been said that he first thought it was the raid team who shot his family.He WASN'T putting the blame on Sheila at all. Being innocent,he wouldn't have known what to think,as none of us would in the same position.

That's only what Jeremy SAID Lookout, he knew enough to call her a 'nutter' while outside with police.

[Adam]

The thing is though,Jeremy had no idea of his sister's illness or even what she was capable of,which meant that he hadn't known what the psychiatrist had told CC,or he'd have really had a field day.It was only after,while in prison that he got to find out about her illness,through information which was gathered together for his first appeal.
As he told Eric Allison,he had no idea,nor did his parents ( although I imagine they kept a lot to themselves ) realise the extent of her illness and how she'd deteriorated in the 6 months leading up to the murders.
Jeremy hadn't known enough about Sheila to even contemplate placing any blame on her initially,so naturally it wouldn't sink in that she'd been so ill and he hadn't known,as it's been said that he first thought it was the raid team who shot his family.He WASN'T putting the blame on Sheila at all. Being innocent,he wouldn't have known what to think,as none of us would in the same position.

His parents had no idea ?

Thought they would have some idea. They were Sheila's parents and were paying her medical bills.

Who sent Sheila to hospital, her parents or was it a self referral ? Suspect it was not a self referral, people often don't want to admit they need help.

So the parents knew a lot. But still invited her over to stay.

[lookout]

That's only what Jeremy SAID Lookout, he knew enough to call her a 'nutter' while outside with police.

He,himself was using the language of a simpleton when he called his sister a " nutter ",because he was ignorant of her true illness. Haven't you heard of that word regularly used to describe some poor soul who is " different " to everyone else ? I've heard it used by the police force in describing some.

[lookout]

People use words like that to bring themselves down to the same level to those who they're speaking to.

[Caroline]

He,himself was using the language of a simpleton when he called his sister a " nutter ",because he was ignorant of her true illness. Haven't you heard of that word regularly used to describe some poor soul who is " different " to everyone else ? I've heard it used by the police force in describing some.

Lookout, my brother was a schizophrenic and I would NEVER have called him a nutter!

[lookout]

Lookout, my brother was a schizophrenic and I would NEVER have called him a nutter!

I DIDN'T say you would did I ? Jeeze,you'd cause mayhem in an empty house.

[Adam]

He,himself was using the language of a simpleton when he called his sister a " nutter ",because he was ignorant of her true illness. Haven't you heard of that word regularly used to describe some poor soul who is " different " to everyone else ? I've heard it used by the police force in describing some.

He seemed to know a lot.

After the massacre he said he was the only one who knew Sheila was 'going back to the nut house'.

[lookout]

He seemed to know a lot.

After the massacre he said he was the only one who knew Sheila was 'going back to the nut house'.

FGS !! Those YOUR words ?