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Offline Adam

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Re: Why did Sheila wait so long to commit suicide ?
« Reply #165 on: June 06, 2015, 03:12:PM »
Caroline I think the world's first mobile speed camera would have been installed on a quiet Country lane in Essex to catch speed merchants on their tractors ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

The massacre was three years after they were introduced. There were some busy roads.
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Re: Why did Sheila wait so long to commit suicide ?
« Reply #166 on: June 06, 2015, 03:17:PM »
How do you know he drove off in a huff ?

The Foakes's said he drove off quickly. But that he always drove off quickly.

I didn't say he did! I said he MAY have done - but why drive of quickly when he drove back SLOWLY? The Foakes mention a previous incident where Jeremy didn't want to work overtime and just jumped into his car and drove him, leaving others to finish his work.
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Re: Why did Sheila wait so long to commit suicide ?
« Reply #167 on: June 06, 2015, 03:28:PM »
I didn't say he did! I said he MAY have done - but why drive of quickly when he drove back SLOWLY? The Foakes mention a previous incident where Jeremy didn't want to work overtime and just jumped into his car and drove him, leaving others to finish his work.

I just chuckled. You know why he drove slowly to WHF.
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Re: Why did Sheila wait so long to commit suicide ?
« Reply #168 on: June 06, 2015, 03:38:PM »
Let's not forget Ralph Neville who also worked late on the fields.I wonder if Jeremy remembers him still working after he'd left ? It was RN who then drove his tractor to Osea Park caravan site where he was staying , ( time ? )but why leave his campervan behind at WHF when he could have driven that back instead,or even stayed in it ? Wouldn't he have been the last to leave the premises ? Did he hear/see anything unusual ? Obviously not or we'd have heard.
It does state somewhere that after his supper,Neville went back out to the field again which could possibly have been after Jeremy had left. Which meant that Neville didn't go to bed at 10pm as someone had suggested.



Aside from that,a PC Wright, the coroners officerwho'd spent all day at the mortuary,was convinced that Sheila had been the killer because besides the scene suggesting that,he'd said that there was " evidence " to show that she was mentally unstable. Just what this " evidence " is,we don't as yet know,but chances are it could possibly come to light within the next submission.

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Re: Why did Sheila wait so long to commit suicide ?
« Reply #169 on: June 06, 2015, 03:39:PM »
I just chuckled. You know why he drove slowly to WHF.

Bit weird!  ???
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Re: Why did Sheila wait so long to commit suicide ?
« Reply #170 on: June 06, 2015, 03:44:PM »
Adam why did Jeremy drive slowly to WHF?

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Re: Why did Sheila wait so long to commit suicide ?
« Reply #171 on: June 06, 2015, 03:47:PM »
Let's not forget Ralph Neville who also worked late on the fields.I wonder if Jeremy remembers him still working after he'd left ? It was RN who then drove his tractor to Osea Park caravan site where he was staying , ( time ? )but why leave his campervan behind at WHF when he could have driven that back instead,or even stayed in it ? Wouldn't he have been the last to leave the premises ? Did he hear/see anything unusual ? Obviously not or we'd have heard.
It does state somewhere that after his supper,Neville went back out to the field again which could possibly have been after Jeremy had left. Which meant that Neville didn't go to bed at 10pm as someone had suggested.



Aside from that,a PC Wright, the coroners officerwho'd spent all day at the mortuary,was convinced that Sheila had been the killer because besides the scene suggesting that,he'd said that there was " evidence " to show that she was mentally unstable. Just what this " evidence " is,we don't as yet know,but chances are it could possibly come to light within the next submission.

You see Lookout, you're referring to TWO different things. Ralf Neviile did NOT drive Jeremy's tractor back to Osea, he wasn't even working with Jeremy that day. He drove the tractor he had been using after finishing up working in a field at Goldhanger (read his statement). No Jeremy doesn't remember his father working late and doesn't mention him helping him in the fields at all, in fact he clearly states that he doesn't know who brought the trailer back - but there it was! Colin stated that Nevill was usually in bed by 10pm so I don't know where you're getting the impression he was working late!

Evidence to show she was mentally unstable after being dead? I'd love to hear how he worked that one out. By the way lookout, where are you getting this from?
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Re: Why did Sheila wait so long to commit suicide ?
« Reply #173 on: June 06, 2015, 04:08:PM »
Gatsometer BV, founded in 1958 by rallydriver Maurice Gatsonides, produced the 'Gatsometer' which was described as "a revolutionary speed-measuring device".[10] Developed initially for improving his race times,[citation needed] it was later marketed as police speed enforcement tool.[10] Gatsometer claim to have developed the first radar for use with road traffic in 1971, but this claim is undermined by evidence that radar detectors were already for sale in 1967.[10] Gatsometer BV produced the world's first mobile speed traffic camera in 1982.

They may have produced it in 1982 but they weren't introduced onto British roads until 1992

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Re: Why did Sheila wait so long to commit suicide ?
« Reply #174 on: June 06, 2015, 05:01:PM »
You see Lookout, you're referring to TWO different things. Ralf Neviile did NOT drive Jeremy's tractor back to Osea, he wasn't even working with Jeremy that day. He drove the tractor he had been using after finishing up working in a field at Goldhanger (read his statement). No Jeremy doesn't remember his father working late and doesn't mention him helping him in the fields at all, in fact he clearly states that he doesn't know who brought the trailer back - but there it was! Colin stated that Nevill was usually in bed by 10pm so I don't know where you're getting the impression he was working late!

Evidence to show she was mentally unstable after being dead? I'd love to hear how he worked that one out. By the way lookout, where are you getting this from?







The latter was from notes made by PC Wright,who'd arrived at the scene at 9am to find no rifle on the body of Sheila.

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Re: Why did Sheila wait so long to commit suicide ?
« Reply #175 on: June 06, 2015, 05:04:PM »
The above comes under the heading " What Coroners officer ( PCWright ) told COLP in 1991.

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Re: Why did Sheila wait so long to commit suicide ?
« Reply #176 on: June 06, 2015, 05:07:PM »
Also in his statement dated 24th September 1985.

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Re: Why did Sheila wait so long to commit suicide ?
« Reply #178 on: June 06, 2015, 05:16:PM »






The latter was from notes made by PC Wright,who'd arrived at the scene at 9am to find no rifle on the body of Sheila.

Where? On the forum? A book? The internet?
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Re: Why did Sheila wait so long to commit suicide ?
« Reply #179 on: June 06, 2015, 05:18:PM »






The latter was from notes made by PC Wright,who'd arrived at the scene at 9am to find no rifle on the body of Sheila.

Never mind, I found it.
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