Why did Sheila wait so long to commit suicide ?

[SaraT]

I'm NOT accepting anything with this botched-up case.

Me neither

[Caroline]

I'm NOT accepting anything with this botched-up case.

You've accepted Jeremy is innocent! Even in the face of all the evidence pointing to his guilt.

[guest154]

You've accepted Jeremy is innocent! Even in the face of all the evidence pointing to his guilt.

I don't think that the case would appear to "botched" to people if they studied it a little better and KNEW the case.

Lookout you get so much wrong about the case, not even just tiny things, that it's no wonder the case appears botched to you. Bloody hell if I thought some of the things were true that you believe then I would think Bamber was innocent too!

[Adam]

Prove he didn't!

Evidence.

Witnesses saw him drive off at 10pm.

The Foakes's didn't hear him drive off at 3am.

He brought over June's bike just before the massacre.

The police passed him on the way to WHF.

He asked the police to pick him up.

There are no road cameras showing him driving home at 3am.

No neighbours saw or heard him drive up to his cottage at 3am.

Julie's WS said he planned to cycle to WHF.

The prosecution successfully argued he cycled to WHF.

[Caroline]

I don't think that the case would appear to "botched" to people if they studied it a little better and KNEW the case.

Lookout you get so much wrong about the case, not even just tiny things, that it's no wonder the case appears botched to you. Bloody hell if I thought some of the things were true that you believe then I would think Bamber was innocent too!

They made some mistakes yes, but this was because Jeremy steered them to investigate it as a murder/suicide and they had no reason (initially) to think it was anything else.

[lookout]

I don't think that the case would appear to "botched" to people if they studied it a little better and KNEW the case.

Lookout you get so much wrong about the case, not even just tiny things, that it's no wonder the case appears botched to you. Bloody hell if I thought some of the things were true that you believe then I would think Bamber was innocent too!

And you don't get things wrong ? Perfect,are you ? When I see an in-depth post about the case,from you,instead of you forever passing remarks about MY posts,then I'll tell YOU if you're wrong or not.

[Caroline]

Evidence.

Witnesses saw him drive off at 10pm. No one SAW him drive off However, he may have driven his car home and walked or cycled back to the trailer he left.

He brought over June's bike just before the massacre. So, doesn't mean he used it!

The police passed him on the way to WHF. And?

He asked the police to pick him up. And?

There are no road cameras showing him driving home at 3am. What cameras? Bit before the time of CCTV Adam 

No neighbours saw or heard him drive up to his cottage at 3am. And? Why would they at 3am?

Julie's WS said he planned to cycle to WHF. She also said he used a hitman!

The prosecution successfully argued he cycled to WHF. And?

[guest154]

And you don't get things wrong ? Perfect,are you ? When I see an in-depth post about the case,from you,instead of you forever passing remarks about MY posts,then I'll tell YOU if you're wrong or not.

Not perfect no, certainly not. I post about the case every day, then you pop up - AE SAYS IN HER COLP... Neville had no top on because he was JUST out the shower!!    Scratches on June?? Etc.. and it all turns out to be wrong.

I've corrected them - and you've never said I was right yet!

[Adam]

Speed camera's came into existence before the massacre. It would only take one.

Mike's video of the journey to WHF goes on some busy roads.

[Adam]

He drove home, then walked or cycled to the trailer he had just left. Then gone back to WHF to ask to stay the night ?

Has everyone gone mad ?

[SaraT]

Speed camera's came into existence before the massacre.

No they didn't, they came into existence much later

[Caroline]

Speed camera's came into existence before the massacre. It would only take one.

Mike's video of the journey to WHF goes on some busy roads.

Why would he be speeding? He would only be pictures if A. there were cameras installed and B. if he was speeding. It also depends which was Mike went!! Also, this wouldn't be the first time that Jeremy drove off in the huff  not wanting to work late but there is nothing to say that THIS TIME he didn't come back and finish the job, in more than one respect!

[Caroline]

No they didn't, they came into existence much later

yes, I thought that was the case and they would only matter if someone was speeding anyway!!

[Caroline]

He drove home, then walked or cycled to the trailer he had just left. Then gone back to WHF to ask to stay the night ?

Has everyone gone mad ?

It's called 'original thought' Adam, you wouldn't know what that was f it came and bit you in the arse!

[Adam]

Gatsometer BV, founded in 1958 by rallydriver Maurice Gatsonides, produced the 'Gatsometer' which was described as "a revolutionary speed-measuring device".[10] Developed initially for improving his race times,[citation needed] it was later marketed as police speed enforcement tool.[10] Gatsometer claim to have developed the first radar for use with road traffic in 1971, but this claim is undermined by evidence that radar detectors were already for sale in 1967.[10] Gatsometer BV produced the world's first mobile speed traffic camera in 1982.