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Offline Caroline

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Re: were jeremy and brett lovers.
« Reply #75 on: May 31, 2015, 11:37:AM »





Not at all. Jeremy needed to sell items in order to lighten the burden of having to pay inheritance tax which can leave a large hole in whatever's left after probate,etc. If he could have got rid of a lot of unwanted antiques,then it would have helped. Jeremy nor the workers would have been receiving any wages at the time as probate can take 4 months and longer and everyone involved still had bills to pay,etc.
He wouldn't have been selling items just for the fun of going partying. Until you've been in such a situation yourself,then you can't judge others.

The inheritance tax  excuse makes me laugh. Why would he be paying inheritance tax when he hadn't inherited anything at that point? You don't pay anything until everything is signed and sealed - then (usually) the solicitor or executor sorts it out. Probate takes months - there was no rush! However, I don't St Tropez is cheap! He was selling things for ready cash - it's also why he must have been searching out his dad's wallet. Fun and partying were the main thing of his mind - most likely why he dropped Julie and preferred to hang out with Brett - he was up for a good time.
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« Reply #76 on: May 31, 2015, 11:43:AM »
The inheritance tax  excuse makes me laugh. Why would he be paying inheritance tax when he hadn't inherited anything at that point? You don't pay anything until everything is signed and sealed - then (usually) the solicitor or executor sorts it out. Probate takes months - there was no rush! However, I don't St Tropez is cheap! He was selling things for ready cash - it's also why he must have been searching out his dad's wallet. Fun and partying were the main thing of his mind - most likely why he dropped Julie and preferred to hang out with Brett - he was up for a good time.






It was inheritance tax on the WHOLE-------------not just his. ::) Properties and farmlands.

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« Reply #77 on: May 31, 2015, 11:46:AM »






I'm NOT suggesting anything of the sort.Why do you ask ?
It's normal for banks to put everything on hold until probate has been sorted,if,as I imagine,the will had been a complicated one.

Jeremy had to meet all costs,including the funerals, flowers,cars,etc.

My word,you have painted him in a very misunderstanding light.


Unless you hadn't noticed Lookout, he's a convicted killer - nothing anyone can say about him here, hasn't been said before.

The business was still in operation, the banks would not put a hold on the business account, so he had that to fall back on should he have needed to. He wasn't struggling to make ends meet and you don't pay for the funeral until the bill comes in which can be several weeks after. This didn't seem to worry Jeremy and he had enough to pay for a holiday to St. Tropez for both him and Brett and also to give Julie £200.00 for a holiday of her own.

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Re: were jeremy and brett lovers.
« Reply #78 on: May 31, 2015, 11:49:AM »





It was inheritance tax on the WHOLE-------------not just his. ::) Properties and farmlands.

I think you need to explain what you mean in more detail Lookout because that looks like another sweeping statement. You only pay Inheritance tax on what YOU inherit and only then, if it is over the set threshold, so I have no idea what you're talking about?
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« Reply #79 on: May 31, 2015, 11:51:AM »
Unless Neville had been a shrewd businessman and used " off-shore " accounts to side-track some of his wealth,then he'd have come in for a hefty tax bill. Poor man didn't have time to make any allowances for what the government steal from you when you're dead,let alone when you're alive.

I've been through all this,so I know.

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« Reply #80 on: May 31, 2015, 12:12:PM »
Unless Neville had been a shrewd businessman and used " off-shore " accounts to side-track some of his wealth,then he'd have come in for a hefty tax bill. Poor man didn't have time to make any allowances for what the government steal from you when you're dead,let alone when you're alive.

I've been through all this,so I know.


Lookout, I'm aware that you have and you've also met hundreds like Colin and June reminds you of your own mother. OF COURSE Jeremy wasn't needing money to pay wages, bills, funeral expenses for funerals which had only JUST happened, death duties and inheritance tax. Jeremy wouldn't have had to deal with ANY of it anyway. The accountant was the person who would have dealt with it and it is he who would have advised Jeremy and I feel perfectly certain that Neville would have been advised of how to ensure the government received as little as possible of his hard eared money.

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« Reply #81 on: May 31, 2015, 12:21:PM »
Unless Neville had been a shrewd businessman and used " off-shore " accounts to side-track some of his wealth,then he'd have come in for a hefty tax bill. Poor man didn't have time to make any allowances for what the government steal from you when you're dead,let alone when you're alive.

I've been through all this,so I know.

We know how much he was to inherit Lookout - the threshold then was about £67,000. So, he had to pay IT on top pf the £67,000. The sum total on what he was about to inherit would have been around £80,000. However, not all assets are subject to IT - a business for instance! I believe (although I could be wrong) that IT is only payable on the inheritance of personal wealth? Part of the probate items would have been the items he was selling, but rather than save that money for the funerals or IT - Jeremy went off to St. Tropez?? Yeah, he was really worried about IT wasn't he?  ;D ;D ;D ;D
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« Reply #82 on: May 31, 2015, 12:35:PM »
We know how much he was to inherit Lookout - the threshold then was about £67,000. So, he had to pay IT on top pf the £67,000. The sum total on what he was about to inherit would have been around £80,000. However, not all assets are subject to IT - a business for instance! I believe (although I could be wrong) that IT is only payable on the inheritance of personal wealth? Part of the probate items would have been the items he was selling, but rather than save that money for the funerals or IT - Jeremy went off to St. Tropez?? Yeah, he was really worried about IT wasn't he?  ;D ;D ;D ;D






His exploits don't mean a thing to me.I'm NOT interested in such fripperies. It was his to spend how he pleased and what a good job he did what he did at the time,given this last 30 years. ;D ;D

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« Reply #83 on: May 31, 2015, 12:41:PM »
He ended up washing dishes anyway to pay for his pleasures.
I don't find anything sinister in what he did at all.He wouldn't have given a thought about the timing of it,nor the displeasing effect it would have had on others because it wasn't he who had anything to hide.

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« Reply #84 on: May 31, 2015, 02:24:PM »
He ended up washing dishes anyway to pay for his pleasures.
I don't find anything sinister in what he did at all.He wouldn't have given a thought about the timing of it,nor the displeasing effect it would have had on others because it wasn't he who had anything to hide.

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« Reply #85 on: May 31, 2015, 04:40:PM »





His exploits don't mean a thing to me.I'm NOT interested in such fripperies. It was his to spend how he pleased and what a good job he did what he did at the time,given this last 30 years. ;D ;D

Well, you've changed your tune. You just said this morning that he wanted to sell the items in order to pay IT (or death duties) and how he wasn't selling the items to party and have a good time. Now it's been pointed out that the IT is basically BS, you're saying you don't care what he wanted the money for. However, it wasn't his to spend, he hadn't inherited anything at that point and given that he killed his family, he wasn't entitled to any of it.
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« Reply #86 on: May 31, 2015, 04:41:PM »
He ended up washing dishes anyway to pay for his pleasures.
I don't find anything sinister in what he did at all.He wouldn't have given a thought about the timing of it,nor the displeasing effect it would have had on others because it wasn't he who had anything to hide.

No, I don't suppose you do.  :o
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« Reply #87 on: May 31, 2015, 04:47:PM »
Well, you've changed your tune. You just said this morning that he wanted to sell the items in order to pay IT (or death duties) and how he wasn't selling the items to party and have a good time. Now it's been pointed out that the IT is basically BS, you're saying you don't care what he wanted the money for. However, it wasn't his to spend, he hadn't inherited anything at that point and given that he killed his family, he wasn't entitled to any of it.

The claims he was selling things for IT is clearly bogus, just not believable.

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Re: were jeremy and brett lovers.
« Reply #88 on: May 31, 2015, 05:00:PM »
The claims he was selling things for IT is clearly bogus, just not believable.

Unless he had to pay the inheritance tax in St. Tropez?  ;D ;D ;D
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« Reply #89 on: May 31, 2015, 05:01:PM »
Unless he had to pay the inheritance tax in St. Tropez?  ;D ;D ;D

And a lot quicker than any of us would have to. What taxman wasn't about to be banging on his door no matter what Bamber says.