if the jury had known that julie mugford had committed criminal acts would they

[lookout]

Propagandist. I doubt anyone's listening to your desperation.

[Adam]

Just stating facts.

Smuggling heroin can result in 20 years to the death penalty. Which is just as bad as the punishment in 1985 for killing his family. However the rewards for killing his family were much higher.

[haughton]

 But, was the jury aware that Jeremy had given Julie the "heave- ho" ? After thinking that she was inline for a share of the "goodies" and then jilted !...............   woman scorned

[lookout]

Of course it was scorn.All the hallmarks were there,the hurt,the anger,then the revenge. Though she was crafty enough to put her own house in order first before the tale-telling started on Jeremy.

[Adam]

The jury were fully aware when Julie and Jeremy spilt up.

It is inconclusive over who jilted who. However Jeremy claimed Julie was telling horrific lies because he apparently jilted her. He could think of no other reason.

This has been discussed before.

On the issue of heroin smuggling. If he had got away with it, he would know that sooner or later he would get caught. And that the punishment was very severe. Carrying out the massacre was a safer bet and had a much bigger reward.

[Caroline]

But, was the jury aware that Jeremy had given Julie the "heave- ho" ? After thinking that she was inline for a share of the "goodies" and then jilted !...............   woman scorned

Yes, because the defence used the 'jilted girlfriend' argument as a reason for her testimony.

[Adam]

Julie told the EP that Jeremy had hired a "hit man".  But, after finding that that was a load of "codswollap" these simple minded thickos decided to accept her statement that JM said he was going to kill them himself (tonights the night).

Jeremy gave himself a proxy. There are lots of reasons why.

This doesn't change what he told her beforehand. Her WS is very believable. And is backed up by lots of other people. Thread already created.

[lookout]

Erm-----------1 WS out of 32 ? Not bad going was it ? What of the other 31 ?

[lookout]

Her December 1985 statement had said,I quote," I'd really like to hurt him",unquote .

She didn't do a bad job of it did she ? Out of sheer spite and revenge.

[haughton]

Adam, I assume that all these "other people" were there and saw what happened

[Adam]

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,6331.msg279608.html#msg279608

[guest154]

Erm-----------1 WS out of 32 ? Not bad going was it ? What of the other 31 ?

There aren't 32 witness statements from Julie!

[lookout]

31 then.

[guest154]

31 then.

Certainly aren't 31 either. 

[lookout]

Certainly aren't 31 either. 

 There must be if 32 statements had been made and only 1 presented at the trial. Where's the rest ?