Rifle that was originally taken off Shiela's body - had a strap...

[mike tesko]

New evidence about how rifle strap on gun, was used to remove it from Shiela's body, set to rock CCRC process...

[mike tesko]

Eye witness tells COLP investigators, he saw rifle being lifted off  Shiela's body, by a named police officer, who handled the weapon this way so as not to damage or disturb any fingerprints that might be on the gun - the rifle that was photographed on Shiela's body from 10 O'clock, onwards, did not have a rifle strap at all?

[grahameb]

Eye witness tells COLP investigators, he saw rifle being lifted off  Shiela's body, by a named police officer, who handled the weapon this way so as not to damage or disturb any fingerprints that might be on the gun - the rifle that was photographed on Shiela's body from 10 O'clock, onwards, did not have a rifle strap at all?

How did they get the strap off without leaving fingerprints?

[mike tesko]

According to police records, a total of three different police officers removed the rifle from the body of Sheila Caffell:-

(1) PS Woodcock, (2) DI Cook, and (3) PI Montgomery...

[Kaldin]

More claims without posting the evidence I see ....

[mike tesko]

Eye witness tells COLP investigators, he saw rifle being lifted off  Shiela's body, by a named police officer, who handled the weapon this way so as not to damage or disturb any fingerprints that might be on the gun - the rifle that was photographed on Shiela's body from 10 O'clock, onwards, did not have a rifle strap at all?

How did they get the strap off without leaving fingerprints?

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It is believed that the gun with the rifle strap is reference to a different gun that was found next to or upon Sheila's body when she was found downstairs in the kitchen, and which was possibly the gun which PS Woodcock removed from the body. This is also the gun which DS Davidson referred to when he spoke to COLP in 1991, when he told them that some red paint was found on the end of a guns barrel (not the silencer) which caused the police to take a paint sample, RC/1 from the aga in the kitchen on 8th August 1985...

From police records we know that DI Cook removed the anshulz rifle from Sheila's body to enable him to photograph bloodied finger-marks on the front lower part of her nightdress. Also that PI Montgomery removed the rifle from Sheila's body at about 11:10am, that morning

[mike tesko]

More claims without posting the evidence I see ....

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Why would one of the scenes of crime officers tell COLP that he witnessed another police officer lift the rifle off Sheila's body by use of the strap on the gun, if there was not a strap on the gun that was on the body?

Seems to me that the reference to this gun with the strap on, has to be the first weapon that was found next to, or close to Sheila's body when it was originally found downstairs in the region of the kitchen, at a time when the police at the scene were referring to a suicide that they were dealing with by 7:45am?

This gun, is now believed to have got some red paint on the end of its barrel, which caused the police to take a paint sample (RC/1)  from the kitchen aga, on and by 8th August 1985...

[Kaldin]

More claims without posting the evidence I see ....

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Why would one of the scenes of crime officers tell COLP that he witnessed another police officer lift the rifle off Sheila's body by use of the strap on the gun, if there was not a strap on the gun that was on the body?

Seems to me that the reference to this gun with the strap on, has to be the first weapon that was found next to, or close to Sheila's body when it was originally found downstairs in the region of the kitchen, at a time when the police at the scene were referring to a suicide that they were dealing with by 7:45am?

This gun, is now believed to have got some red paint on the end of its barrel, which caused the police to take a paint sample (RC/1)  from the kitchen aga, on and by 8th August 1985...

In order for me to answer that I'd have to see the document which states such a thing.

[mike tesko]

More claims without posting the evidence I see ....

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Why would one of the scenes of crime officers tell COLP that he witnessed another police officer lift the rifle off Sheila's body by use of the strap on the gun, if there was not a strap on the gun that was on the body?

Seems to me that the reference to this gun with the strap on, has to be the first weapon that was found next to, or close to Sheila's body when it was originally found downstairs in the region of the kitchen, at a time when the police at the scene were referring to a suicide that they were dealing with by 7:45am?

This gun, is now believed to have got some red paint on the end of its barrel, which caused the police to take a paint sample (RC/1)  from the kitchen aga, on and by 8th August 1985...

In order for me to answer that I'd have to see the document which states such a thing.

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Yes, I know - but I have to get that document to JB as soon as possible before a decision can be made as to whether to post it or not?

[John]

I understood  that Jeremy had asked that the forums be suspended pending the latest CCRC review?

[FredPerry]

Why is that?

[John]

Why is that?

Fred, you can read the letter and the subsequent discussion here.

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,385.0.html

It is my understanding that Jeremy's legal team feel that forum criticism of the CCRC could be counter-productive.

[FredPerry]

Thanks

[mike tesko]

The .22 air rifle that belonged to the family, and which was normally kept on the small set of spiral stairs in the corner of the kitchen that led up to the upper landing by the bedroom doors, was known to have had a strap fitted to it...

Did Sheila initially shoot herself in the side of the neck / throat by use of this .22 air rifle?

Was this why EP had to swap over the damaged pellet, for a whole .22 bullet that they could subsequently link and associate with the .22 anshulz rifle?

.22 air rifle was fingerprinted and found to have got Sheila's fingerprints upon it - her fingerprints were also found on a 12 bore shotgun that EP recovered from the same gun cupboard where the relatives claimed to have found the silencer?

[sandy]

I think you will find that her prints were on everything at the farm.  She lived there from time to time remember.