The meeting with The Sun newspaper:

[Caroline]

J. Bamber is a victim too. No matter what, he is. His bio parents didnt want him.
I think the sun would have made sure to get those pictures, they have nothing to prove this session. Why didn´t they record anything, not one bit? Seriously!

Because he didn't realise that 30 years later, conspiracy theories would be rife even when it's as clear as the nose on your face that he tried to sell the pictures.

[Adam]

Must admit I do find it odd when adults adopt children that are 6 or 7 years old. There is an advert on TV at the moment showing a young boy being adopted.

Bamber never had this problem. The only parents he knew was Neville and June.

[Caroline]

I just don't believe he murdered because he was adopted at six months old. It has nothing to do with the massacre.

Seriously? 

[maggie]

You think he massacred his mother, father, sister and two six year old's after 24 years, because he was adopted ?

He was an inheritance killer. Together with lots of other reasons that have been posted. Adoption has nothing to do with it.  You know this. I don't know why you are going on about it.

I am 'going on about it' because this is a possibility IMO. I have every right to say it even if you don't agree with it or for some reason don't want to hear it.  The world isn't black and white, just because you want him to be an inheritance killer, psychopath whatever doesn't make him one.
I don't know anything Adam but I can see this as a 'possibility'.

[Adam]

If JB did murder it would very possibly be because of the adoption. He would need to be totally dissasociated and disordered to carry out such a crime or a psychpath, he would not need to be a genetic psychpath but more a sociopath and very mentally damaged. That's my opinion, no way would he rationally decide to kill them all because he had concious and rational adoption issues, that's not what I am saying but you I don't believe you want to hear what I am saying.

If ? You know he committed the massacre.

Not being a blood relative would have made it easier for him. But I'm sure he would have still gone ahead anyway. Just as other inheritance killers have.

[Adam]

Being adopted would not result in him hating June and Neville. Why would it ?  Lots of other things contributed to his hatred built up over 24 years. 

Not being a blood relative may have an issue in his decision. But after 24 years, not a big one.

[maggie]

Must admit I do find it odd when adults adopt children that are 6 or 7 years old. There is an advert on TV at the moment showing a young boy being adopted.

Bamber never had this problem. The only parents he knew was Neville and June.

What is odd about adults adopting 6 or 7 year olds?  Don't you believe some people can love a child simply because that  child is a human being not because they 'belong' to them and are of their own flesh and blood....... what has that got to do with love?

[Caroline]

'Grateful' .... Are you serious? I wonder why you block my argument? What did Mary Mugford understand about adoption?  I am not saying Nevill and June didn't want their children, i would never say that I hope as an adoptive mother myself I have some insight, think I said they were all victims from the natural parents all the way through to Jeremy and Sheila and the carnage which was the end result. If June was at fault I woul say I am in no doubt she did her best but was so weighed down with her own mental health difficulties she simply had no way of understanding. Her mental health and mothering problems possibly came from her own upbringing, such is the continuation from generation to generation.

Some people only have children because they see it as fulfilling a purpose and they want someone to pass on the family heritage (if they think they have something worth passing on). Some don't know how to express feelings and don't provide the kind of nurturing relationship that provides for a healthy minded child. That's bad enough when you're a natural child but if adopted, it must make you feel unlovable and finding this out just before being sent to boarding school must have been absolutely crushing. Bamber was/is a victim and as you say, he's more a victim of ignorance than anything else. However, it certainly isn't an excuse for what he did - there were/are others in similar circumstances who didn't feel the need to massacre their entire family. I guess it's a case of individual differences but I have no doubt that June and Nevill thought they did their best.

[Caroline]

Being adopted would not result in him hating June and Neville. Why would it ?  Lots of other things contributed to his hatred built up over 24 years. 

Not being a blood relative may have an issue in his decision. But after 24 years, not a big one.

You have absolutely no understanding of psychology.

[Caroline]

You think he massacred his mother, father, sister and two six year old's after 24 years, because he was adopted ?

He was an inheritance killer. Together with lots of other reasons that have been posted. Adoption has nothing to do with it.  You know this. I don't know why you are going on about it.

This proves my last post!

[maggie]

Some people only have children because they see it as fulfilling a purpose and they want someone to pass on the family heritage (if they think they have something worth passing on). Some don't know how to express feelings and don't provide the kind of nurturing relationship that provides for a healthy minded child. That's bad enough when you're a natural child but if adopted, it must make you feel unlovable and finding this out just before being sent to boarding school must have been absolutely crushing. Bamber was/is a victim and as you say, he's more a victim of ignorance than anything else. However, it certainly isn't an excuse for what he did - there were/are others in similar circumstances who didn't feel the need to massacre their entire family. I guess it's a case of individual differences but I have no doubt that June and Nevill thought they did their best.

I agree.

[lookout]

 Speaking of adoption,if I'd been younger,I'd have fought to take that little Rumanian child, " Marie ", who is now in a childrens home in Greece. A beautiful child,with such a sad face. I would have loved her.

[susan]

Speaking of adoption,if I'd been younger,I'd have fought to take that little Rumanian child, " Marie ", who is now in a childrens home in Greece. A beautiful child,with such a sad face. I would have loved her.

Hello lookout

I believe you would as you are a very maternal person a wonderful trait to have

[susan]

Some people only have children because they see it as fulfilling a purpose and they want someone to pass on the family heritage (if they think they have something worth passing on). Some don't know how to express feelings and don't provide the kind of nurturing relationship that provides for a healthy minded child. That's bad enough when you're a natural child but if adopted, it must make you feel unlovable and finding this out just before being sent to boarding school must have been absolutely crushing. Bamber was/is a victim and as you say, he's more a victim of ignorance than anything else. However, it certainly isn't an excuse for what he did - there were/are others in similar circumstances who didn't feel the need to massacre their entire family. I guess it's a case of individual differences but I have no doubt that June and Nevill thought they did their best.

Caroline that too is an excellent post and I agree with the points you raised.  I did read Jeremy was never interested in his birth parents until maybe after he was sentenced to life in prison.

[Caroline]

Caroline that too is an excellent post and I agree with the points you raised.  I did read Jeremy was never interested in his birth parents until maybe after he was sentenced to life in prison.

Perhaps he was always interested in them Susan but didn't want to be rejected again? Sheila meeting her birth mother probably impacted on him too, causing more resentment?