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Offline Caroline

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Re: The meeting with The Sun newspaper:
« Reply #1035 on: May 28, 2015, 01:54:PM »
none of us know him you dont him ethere.

I'm not the one saying I know lots of people like him and making judgements. He has no reason to lie - Jeremy has LOTS!!
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Re: The meeting with The Sun newspaper:
« Reply #1036 on: May 28, 2015, 02:10:PM »
What evidence did EP have that they " knew " it was Jeremy ?

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Re: The meeting with The Sun newspaper:
« Reply #1037 on: May 28, 2015, 02:11:PM »
Can someone please tell me on what evidence EP convicted Jeremy ?

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Re: The meeting with The Sun newspaper:
« Reply #1038 on: May 28, 2015, 02:19:PM »
Can someone please tell me on what evidence EP convicted Jeremy ?

You've been told many times by many people. You just refuse to believe it and continue to keep your eyes closed.

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Re: The meeting with The Sun newspaper:
« Reply #1039 on: May 28, 2015, 02:42:PM »
What evidence did EP have that they " knew " it was Jeremy ?

I'd say an eye test was required and maybe a dingy to get you off that boat!  ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Re: The meeting with The Sun newspaper:
« Reply #1040 on: May 28, 2015, 03:07:PM »
Nothing wrong with my eyesight.It's just that I can't see the list of evidence  ;D ;D ;D ;D
Conspicuous by its absence.

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Re: The meeting with The Sun newspaper:
« Reply #1041 on: May 28, 2015, 03:10:PM »
 I happen to know what it's like to fill an A4 writing pad page to page and have no-one take any notice !!
So how Jeremy feels with his floor to ceiling files God only knows.

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Re: The meeting with The Sun newspaper:
« Reply #1042 on: May 28, 2015, 03:57:PM »
Nothing wrong with my eyesight.It's just that I can't see the list of evidence  ;D ;D ;D ;D
Conspicuous by its absence.

Nothing wrong with your eyesight.It's just that you refuse see the what's staring you in the face    ;D ;D ;D ;D

You deny it's existence - doesn't matter though, the court didn't!
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Re: The meeting with The Sun newspaper:
« Reply #1043 on: May 28, 2015, 04:39:PM »
It still doesn't stop me from wanting to know what EP had on him though. I'd like to know.

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Re: The meeting with The Sun newspaper:
« Reply #1044 on: May 28, 2015, 04:41:PM »
It still doesn't stop me from wanting to know what EP had on him though. I'd like to know.



I hope you get a more comprehensive response to your question than the one you gave mine ;)

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Re: The meeting with The Sun newspaper:
« Reply #1045 on: May 28, 2015, 04:44:PM »


I hope you get a more comprehensive response to your question than the one you gave mine ;)






Response ? I've only had excuses up to now.Is my question soooooo difficult ? Afterall,whatever the answer is,is what got Jeremy his conviction,and so far---------------------------------

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Re: The meeting with The Sun newspaper:
« Reply #1046 on: May 28, 2015, 04:45:PM »

  "Colin said that Jeremy chatted generally not that they did."
     Do you understand the definition of chatting? It is generally regarded as a two way conversation and Colin refers to arrangements made between them which more than suggests a two way conversation.
    As for the "ganging up", how on earth do you construe that Colin was not suspicious of the relatives and their motives. His own words make quite clear that the "ganging up" consisted of statements to the police and giving negative stories to the press.
    Can you think of a synonym for "ganging up" in the context of these events. Would "attempting to frame him"  be apt?
     It is also pretty clear that at this stage Colin still thought Sheila responsible so simple logic should tell you that the relatives "ganging up" was seen as an attempt to frame Jeremy by Colin. If you cannot surmise this from Colin's statements then your comprehension skills could do with brushing up.
      The book that Colin wrote some years later is not "expanding" on his statements, as you put it. The statements are legal documents that may be tested in court and, well a book some years later isn't is it?
     Whatever is said after the event there is no getting away from the fact that Colin did not have concerns about Jeremy selling the slides because there is no reasonable explanation why he would leave them with Jeremy for so long afterwards and then go away for a break if he was concerned. Anything said long after the event which contradicts the contemporaneous account is revisionism.

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Re: The meeting with The Sun newspaper:
« Reply #1047 on: May 28, 2015, 05:10:PM »





Response ? I've only had excuses up to now.Is my question soooooo difficult ? Afterall,whatever the answer is,is what got Jeremy his conviction,and so far---------------------------------


Lucky you. You made no attempt whatsoever to answer my question which required far less thought than yours. All you were required to do was pick a number between 1-10.

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Re: The meeting with The Sun newspaper:
« Reply #1048 on: May 28, 2015, 05:16:PM »
Can someone please tell me on what evidence EP convicted Jeremy ?

I told you countless times and all you do in response is to say you refuse to believe it and instead of basing your beliefs in this case on the evidence and his behaviors after the murders you choose to make your decision based on body language in the limited times you saw him on film.  Calling Sheila before police and not bothering to call 999 are telling, your body language mumbo jumbo is not.

The evidence in the case consisted of evidence proving:

Sheila didn't load the gun

Sheila didn't beat anyone

Sheila didn't fire a gun

Sheila can't have committed suicide she was murdered

Sheila's murder was staged as a suicide 

Julie's testimony that Jeremy planned to kill his family and stage it as a murder suicide at the hands of Sheila

Evidence Jeremy unhooked and hid a perfectly working kitchen phone and replaced it with the bedroom phone so there no longer was a phone in the master bedroom.

Evidence that Nevill was shot in the master bedroom with June and then after the gun was empty things progressed to the kitchen but Nevill's wounds prevented him from speaking (so not only would he not have made a call featuring the lie that Sheila was running around with a gun going crazy, he couldn't make a call).

Evidence also proves Jeremy called Julie before police but lied and claimed he called police first knowing he had no valid excuse for calling her first if he had actually received the call he claims to have received from Nevill.

Jeremy also lied to police at the scene claiming Sheila had fired all weapons in the house and was competent with them.

Jeremy also made up a ridiculous story about getting the gun out to shoot rabbits and leaving it out so as to pretend there was a weapon of opportunity for Sheila to grab but he left out too many bullets for his story to be true thus revealing the bullets were staged later. 

In sum, the physical evidence proves Sheila was murdered along with everyone else and framed.  Jeremy's claim he received a phone call, Julie's testimony, Jeremy's other claims to police and behavior after allegedly receiving a call from Nevill all demonstrate he is the one who framed her. That is how the case was made.

 
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Re: The meeting with The Sun newspaper:
« Reply #1049 on: May 28, 2015, 05:20:PM »

Lucky you. You made no attempt whatsoever to answer my question which required far less thought than yours. All you were required to do was pick a number between 1-10.






Another side-track ?