The meeting with The Sun newspaper:

[Alias]

It is, like so many years ago, why do you care?

[guest154]

Well, perhaps someone else who isn't convinced about the pictures will ask him - I'm 100% that he tried to sell them so don't need confirmation.

I'm certain he did too. There is too much in favour of him doing so.

[susan]

I'm certain he did too. There is too much in favour of him doing so.

Hi Mat

according to Colin Jeremy did try and sell the photo's Colin wrote a strong letter to him asking for all the photo's but it was too late as it was splashed all over the newspapers that Jeremy had tried to sell the explicit photo's of poor Sheila.

[guest154]

Hi Mat

according to Colin Jeremy did try and sell the photo's Colin wrote a strong letter to him asking for all the photo's but it was too late as it was splashed all over the newspapers that Jeremy had tried to sell the explicit photo's of poor Sheila.

Hi Susan. Yeah, that is true.
I don't doubt Bamber tried to sell them at all.

[maggie]

Hi Susan. Yeah, that is true.
I don't doubt Bamber tried to sell them at all.

I do struggle with this, The Sun edited by Kelvin Mackenzie was about as dodgy as a newspaper can be. They wrote collossal lies about Hillsborough as we now know so I have no reason to believe a word they ever wrote. On the other side it's difficult to doubt Colin's word. I just wonder how anyone could be so obtuse as to believe they could get away with it. I understand if JB is a psychopath there would be no moral reasoning  or emotional understanding but also psychopaths are known to mimic others and you would expect someone who is obviously brilliant at hiding his true self so well would have been on his best behaviour at this time.
Of course there are arguments about a slipping mask, grandiose self belief etc. but I don't know, like Alias I believe there are unanswered questions .

[susan]

I do struggle with this, The Sun edited by Kelvin Mackenzie was about as dodgy as a newspaper can be. They wrote collossal lies about Hillsborough as we now know so I have no reason to believe a word they ever wrote. On the other side it's difficult to doubt Colin's word. I just wonder how anyone could be so obtuse as to believe they could get away with it. I understand if JB is a psychopath there would be no moral reasoning  or emotional understanding but also psychopaths are known to mimic others and you would expect someone who is obviously brilliant at hiding his true self so well would have been on his best behaviour at this time.
Of course there are arguments about a slipping mask, grandiose self belief etc. but I don't know, like Alias I believe there are unanswered questions .

Hello Maggie

how would the Sun Newspaper know about the photo's if somebody had not brought them to their attention. Colin seems to be in no doubt what Jeremy did and as I said earlier he tried to avert the situation by writing to Jeremy to get all the photo's so he could destroy them but it was too late as Colin saw it splashed all over the front page.

[maggie]

Hello Maggie

how would the Sun Newspaper know about the photo's if somebody had not brought them to their attention. Colin seems to be in no doubt what Jeremy did and as I said earlier he tried to avert the situation by writing to Jeremy to get all the photo's so he could destroy them but it was too late as Colin saw it splashed all over the front page.

I can see your arguments Susie, that's not my problem. If I could 100% accept this it would be difficult to question any more but it niggles me...... Sorry can't help it 

[susan]

I can see your arguments Susie, that's not my problem. If I could 100% accept this it would be difficult to question any more but it niggles me...... Sorry can't help it 

Maggie are you having a problem with the explicit photo,s and the Sun and Jeremy trying to sell them.  Colin has no doubt this was true as the words the Sun used are exactly the same words Jeremy used to Colin when telling him about the photo's and Colin new straight away Jeremy had contacted the Sun regarding the sale of the photo's.  Colin's word is good enough for me he has no agenda why would he make it all up.

[lookout]

 We all know that the police are in cahoots with the press and vice-versa,EP being no exception. Kelvin McKenzie was editor of the Sun newspaper during the time of the murders,and although he was alleged to have said that the " little shit " didn't do it,he hadn't refused to join the " knees-up " which was presented in celebration of Jeremy being convicted ?? Wheels within wheels and corruption galore.

[nugnug]

well i cant belive the word of a sun journlist but colin cadfial i dont see any reason not to belive him.

well the corupt relashanship with the police was craly exposed in the phone hacking scandel.

[susan]

well i cant belive the word of a sun journlist but colin cadfial i dont see any reason not to belive him.

well the corupt relashanship with the police was craly exposed in the phone hacking scandel.

Hi nugnug I am with you on that one what reason would Colin have to make it up he tried so hard to get the photo's back to destroy them and as I said earlier how would the Sun know about these explicit photo's if they had not been approached to buy them.

[lookout]

 As regards CC,why was his immediate reaction that it was Sheila ? Why did he even say what he said ? What led him to blame Sheila ? Do we really know his full story ? I doubt it. Just snippets of it in his book because he didn't feel right fully committing himself to something that he felt would have been one-sided with her no longer being here.
I felt that he could have said a lot more,but turned his attentions to blaming June for the way Sheila was,then continued to view June in a very poor light.
 

[nugnug]

what i cant figure out is why he would have brett aprouch the sun and then do the deal himself why dident he aprouch them.

[lookout]

We all know that the police are in cahoots with the press and vice-versa,EP being no exception. Kelvin McKenzie was editor of the Sun newspaper during the time of the murders,and although he was alleged to have said that the " little shit " didn't do it,he hadn't refused to join the " knees-up " which was presented in celebration of Jeremy being convicted ?? Wheels within wheels and corruption galore.

The " celebration " which took place was a disgrace and an utter insult to two children who'd been killed.
What was there to celebrate,and who footed the bill---------------the winners ?

[lookout]

Did this make headline news in the Sun ? Nah ! They pick and choose their headlines to suit, whether they're right or wrong.