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Offline Jane

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Re: The meeting with The Sun newspaper:
« Reply #360 on: May 10, 2015, 07:41:PM »





C'mon,have some empathy.Jeremy was in shock, it's no wonder he felt out on a limb,he had nobody to talk to. He was looking for reassurance and it wasn't forthcoming.
I'd go as far as to say he was scared at the unknown. If he'd KNOWN how ravaged with insanity Sheila had been,then no doubt he'd have hurtled to WHF at top speed,but because Sheila had " cried wolf " in the past,this was something he HADN'T expected.

Careful you don't let that guard slip. ;) ;)


Sorry Lookout, when someone tells me they feel pissed off!!! because allegedly their panicked father has rung them in the middle of the night to say that their sister has gone mad, she has got hold of a gun so will they please come quickly, they then proceed to diddle away time by looking up local police numbers and call their girlfriend to tell her that something is wrong at the farm but everything is going well, I find myself feeling very short of empathy.

As for his being scared. He wasn't a child. He hadn't just come out of a monastery. He'd travelled the world. He'd been mixed up in one or two shady dealings like drugs and break in and entry. He more than knew which way was up. ALL he had to do was call 999, which required no effort, no struggling to find phone numbers in the middle of the night, and he'd have fulfilled his responsibility to his father. He chose not to and NOWHERE have I seen it written that he ever expressed any remorse for not having acted faster.

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Re: The meeting with The Sun newspaper:
« Reply #361 on: May 10, 2015, 07:53:PM »
I'm sitting here killing myself laughing at Jeremy's interview with EP. Where JB gets muddled over times and SJ puts words into his mouth.

Q" You see Mr Bamber we know that at about 3.26 that morning you phoned the Police. We know that at 3.15 you phoned Julie up. What have you to say about this ?"

A." You are very clever men to prove both clocks were accurate ."

Q." I will tell you the Police clock on Control is always accurate." 
Q." What did you say to your girlfriend when you phoned her up ?"

A " I cannot remember,you tell me ".

Spot the mistake. How was it SJ knew the times before being told ?


It reminds me of the apprentice who worked on a farm where ducks were kept and in order to make a distinction of where the the breed came from,the farmer lifted the duck up and smelled its behind.
This one,he said,sniffing,is an Aylesbury.The next a Campbell and a Muscovey,etc etc.
The apprentice was fascinated and amazed,then the farmer asked him where he was from,so the apprentice answered, saying, you're the expert.

Eh? He knew because he'd interviewed JM, West, JM's flat mates and he knew the times didn't match those told by JB from his 'previous' statements. Jeremy couldn't answer because he'd forgotten what he'd previously said.
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Re: The meeting with The Sun newspaper:
« Reply #362 on: May 10, 2015, 07:55:PM »




Tyler will bear me out when she's on the forum again,as both of us were trying to decipher it to make some sense of it. I can't for the life of me remember where it originated from,but it was possible that Mike had had it on an old disc that he'd removed to transfer.

Oh I remember it and the reason you couldn't decipher it, is because it was rubbish.
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Re: The meeting with The Sun newspaper:
« Reply #363 on: May 10, 2015, 07:58:PM »




His words to your query were " that he was pissed off and wanted a friendly voice to speak to ". Wouldn't you ?

Yes he said at trial. But not the pissed off.
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Re: The meeting with The Sun newspaper:
« Reply #364 on: May 10, 2015, 08:01:PM »
Jan's got a better memory than me. It was last year I know that much. ;D

Jan just commented on the letters the other day, I think she agrees that they're 'false' too.

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,6696.msg305015.html#msg305015

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Re: The meeting with The Sun newspaper:
« Reply #365 on: May 10, 2015, 08:05:PM »





C'mon,have some empathy.Jeremy was in shock, it's no wonder he felt out on a limb,he had nobody to talk to. He was looking for reassurance and it wasn't forthcoming.
I'd go as far as to say he was scared at the unknown. If he'd KNOWN how ravaged with insanity Sheila had been,then no doubt he'd have hurtled to WHF at top speed,but because Sheila had " cried wolf " in the past,this was something he HADN'T expected.

Careful you don't let that guard slip. ;) ;)

You paint him out to be an absolute moron - anyone passed the age of 5 knows you ring 999 when there is a problem. Empathy is something Jeremy lacks and his guard slipped often.
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Re: The meeting with The Sun newspaper:
« Reply #366 on: May 10, 2015, 08:06:PM »
Why would Jeremy be 'pissed off' at Neville's call ?

He was barely awake and Neville needed his help. Thought Jeremy would be flattered that Neville choose the option of phoning him. He had lots of better options. And also Jeremy would  be concerned, Sheila had gone crazy and had got the gun.

'Pissed off' is not a feeling he should have felt.
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'Only I know what really happened that night'.

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Re: The meeting with The Sun newspaper:
« Reply #367 on: May 10, 2015, 08:15:PM »

Sorry Lookout, when someone tells me they feel pissed off!!! because allegedly their panicked father has rung them in the middle of the night to say that their sister has gone mad, she has got hold of a gun so will they please come quickly, they then proceed to diddle away time by looking up local police numbers and call their girlfriend to tell her that something is wrong at the farm but everything is going well, I find myself feeling very short of empathy.

As for his being scared. He wasn't a child. He hadn't just come out of a monastery. He'd travelled the world. He'd been mixed up in one or two shady dealings like drugs and break in and entry. He more than knew which way was up. ALL he had to do was call 999, which required no effort, no struggling to find phone numbers in the middle of the night, and he'd have fulfilled his responsibility to his father. He chose not to and NOWHERE have I seen it written that he ever expressed any remorse for not having acted faster.







I don't think he took much notice of the family,April,so wouldn't have known what went on from one week to the next,therefore because of his lack of interest,which it was,he was more interested in social life and women,he wouldn't have known in-depth how ill both women were and he had always been so reliant on his family doing everything so that night was no different in that he'd expected his father to do all the phoning,etc,which Neville did btw,as his call was written on the back of the same record that Jeremy had made previously because there had been a PTO on the bottom right hand side of the page.



The letter has been found. Apparently it's part of what the Met have got which had been in Taff's possession. The other part is under PII.
It looks very much like part of a suicide note from Sheila and must have been written on the night of the tragedy.

It's headed " handwritten note kept by DCI " Taff " Jones.

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Re: The meeting with The Sun newspaper:
« Reply #368 on: May 10, 2015, 08:17:PM »
Why would Jeremy be 'pissed off' at Neville's call ?

He was barely awake and Neville needed his help. Thought Jeremy would be flattered that Neville choose the option of phoning him. He had lots of better options. And also Jeremy would  be concerned, Sheila had gone crazy and had got the gun.

'Pissed off' is not a feeling he should have felt.

Well, it was 3am Adam - and he was fast asleep, bit of a liberty calling him at that time of the morning.  ;)
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Re: The meeting with The Sun newspaper:
« Reply #369 on: May 10, 2015, 08:21:PM »






I don't think he took much notice of the family,April,so wouldn't have known what went on from one week to the next,therefore because of his lack of interest,which it was,he was more interested in social life and women,he wouldn't have known in-depth how ill both women were and he had always been so reliant on his family doing everything so that night was no different in that he'd expected his father to do all the phoning,etc,which Neville did btw,as his call was written on the back of the same record that Jeremy had made previously because there had been a PTO on the bottom right hand side of the page.



The letter has been found. Apparently it's part of what the Met have got which had been in Taff's possession. The other part is under PII.
It looks very much like part of a suicide note from Sheila and must have been written on the night of the tragedy.

It's headed " handwritten note kept by DCI " Taff " Jones.

Ha, ha!! No he didn't and there is nothing written on the back that mentions Nevill's call to police. Jeremy said he has ALL the PII stuff now so not sure why it's still being mentioned.
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Re: The meeting with The Sun newspaper:
« Reply #370 on: May 10, 2015, 08:23:PM »
Well, it was 3am Adam - and he was fast asleep, bit of a liberty calling him at that time of the morning.  ;)






Yes, that's about the strength of it and the way Jeremy was I'm afraid.

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Re: The meeting with The Sun newspaper:
« Reply #371 on: May 10, 2015, 08:25:PM »

Yes, that's about the strength of it and the way Jeremy was I'm afraid.

Wow!
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Re: The meeting with The Sun newspaper:
« Reply #372 on: May 10, 2015, 08:45:PM »
Wow!






Gormless and lazy. Too idle to scratch himself,let alone murder 5 people.

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Re: The meeting with The Sun newspaper:
« Reply #373 on: May 10, 2015, 08:55:PM »
The numbers I quoted from that letter--------3.3.57 = although from the Bible it's 3.3.5 :

Jesus replied," Very truly I tell you, no-one can see the Kingdom of God unless they are born again "

"How can someone be born when they are old ?" Nicodemus asked " Surely they cannot enter a second time into their mother's womb to be born !"

Jesus answered " Very truly I tell you, no-one can enter the Kingdom of God unless they are born of water and the Spirit.

From the NIV. Holy Bible.

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Re: The meeting with The Sun newspaper:
« Reply #374 on: May 10, 2015, 08:58:PM »





Gormless and lazy. Too idle to scratch himself,let alone murder 5 people.


Doesn't REALLY fit with the sharp dresser, the guy who was so well groomed he even coloured his hair, the party animal, the Champagne quaffing Hooray Henry man about town image, all of which required funds. I'd have described him as VERY high maintenance.