The meeting with The Sun newspaper:

[Caroline]

What is your understanding of famous, Nugs? Mine, in this case, is that it refers to the ones which had been in all the papers previously, ie the WELL KNOWN ones.

I find it quite inexplicable that the question of validity of these pictures is still being debated, long past its' sell by date, after Jeremy TOLD the Sun they were available for sale -WHAT would he have produced if they'd gone along with it had they NOT been what he said they were?-  and Colin, too, was convinced of their existence. It ISN'T up to us to prove it.

We don't have to, it's documented in Colin's book, in The Sun and not the documentary. I can understand staunch supporters not wanting to admit it's true because it puts Jeremy in a VERY bad light. Although, as already said, it doesn't make him a killer - just very callous and completely lacking moral fibre.

[Caroline]

by famous he would obviosly mean that a fair few people knew about them but they dident.

Nugs, by FAMOUS, he's talking about the pictures that appeared in the news NOT THE EXPLICIT pictures because they didn't appear anywhere. Jeremy just told Colin and the resporter about them and what they depicted.

[Caroline]

 
And what are you doing if something suits the argument ? The very same thing.

I fully admit when I'm wrong Lookout, if I was wrong about him being guilty, I'd be the first to say so. After all, I wasn't afraid to admit I was (completely) wrong about innocence. I was taken in by smoke and mirrors from the campaign but not no more.

It's obvious he tried to sell those pictures.

[lookout]

I fully admit when I'm wrong Lookout, if I was wrong about him being guilty, I'd be the first to say so. After all, I wasn't afraid to admit I was (completely) wrong about innocence. I was taken in my smoke and mirrors from the campaign but not no more.

It's obvious he tried to sell those pictures.

We'll see.

[Caroline]

We'll see.

Yeah, I was told all the same type of BS too. "On the glorious day" 

[susan]

Nugs, by FAMOUS, he's talking about the pictures that appeared in the news NOT THE EXPLICIT pictures because they didn't appear anywhere. Jeremy just told Colin and the resporter about them and what they depicted.

Caroline I am now confused which of the sets of pictures were the "famous" ones Jeremy told Colin he was keeping the "famous ones" for himself and Colin said he did not even know famous ones existed.

[Caroline]

Caroline I am now confused which of the sets of pictures were the "famous" ones Jeremy told Colin he was keeping the "famous ones" for himself and Colin said he did not even know famous ones existed.

OK;

There was her portfolio - which was obviously the source for some of the pictures in the headlines and might have been in used in some advertising etc. when she was  alive. These are 'the famous pictures' Colin wanted the portfolio but Jeremy said he was taking the 'famous pictures' out and keeping them.

Then there are the soft porn pics either found at WHF or put there by Jeremy - the ones he said June had seen.

Then there are the EXPLICIT pictures that he tried to sell to The Sun and also mentioned to Colin.

[Jane]

by famous he would obviosly mean that a fair few people knew about them but they dident.

I would be HUGELY surprised if, until the time of her death, more that Sheila and the photographer knew of the existence of the porny ones. The others -the modelling shots had been all over the papers here and in mainland Europe. Which do YOU believe to have been the "famous" ones?

[susan]

OK;

There was her portfolio - which was obviously the source for some of the pictures in the headlines and might have been in used in some advertising etc. when she was  alive. These are 'the famous pictures' Colin wanted the portfolio but Jeremy said he was taking the 'famous pictures' out and keeping them.

Then there are the soft porn pics either found at WHF or put there by Jeremy - the ones he said June had seen.

Then there are the EXPLICIT pictures that he tried to sell to The Sun and also mentioned to Colin.

what has confused me is Colin states in his book Jeremy told him he wished to keep all the famous photo's himself Colin stated (I did not even know there were any famous ones) this statement made me think he meant the explicit ones Colin carries on to say he opened a container of slides and was surprised to see they were nude photo's of Sheila and Colin was shocked this is when Jeremy was looking over Colin,s shoulder gloating and eager to tell there were a few more similar boxes but even more revealing  and adding you see everything down to the last detail and laughed.

What ever words were used the top and bottom is Jeremy was prepared to sell explicit pictures of his dead sister to the Sun Newspaper.

Anyone interested page 93 of Colin's book.

[lookout]

Hi Susan,I have open,page 93,but no mention of photo's,only about destroying blood-stained mattresses and flinging open all the windows of the farmhouse because of the " smell of death lingering ". Which beggars belief in my mind for " someone who can slaughter his family " and see the bloodbath that there must have been,yet bawks at the smell of death when the bodies were well removed ? Doesn't make sense to me. 

[lookout]

Included on that page,is mention of the distance from WHF to Goldhanger,saying 4 miles ?
Many others have stated 3 miles. That makes a difference to times,pedalling power and all that. .
So what's it to be--------------3 miles or 4 ?

[Caroline]

what has confused me is Colin states in his book Jeremy told him he wished to keep all the famous photo's himself Colin stated (I did not even know there were any famous ones) this statement made me think he meant the explicit ones Colin carries on to say he opened a container of slides and was surprised to see they were nude photo's of Sheila and Colin was shocked this is when Jeremy was looking over Colin,s shoulder gloating and eager to tell there were a few more similar boxes but even more revealing  and adding you see everything down to the last detail and laughed.

What ever words were used the top and bottom is Jeremy was prepared to sell explicit pictures of his dead sister to the Sun Newspaper.

Anyone interested page 93 of Colin's book.

Well, given as the explicit ones weren't famous, I think personally he was talking about those that appeared in the newspapers after she died because by then, they were famous. And yes, you're last point is the whole point.

[susan]

Hi Susan,I have open,page 93,but no mention of photo's,only about destroying blood-stained mattresses and flinging open all the windows of the farmhouse because of the " smell of death lingering ". Which beggars belief in my mind for " someone who can slaughter his family " and see the bloodbath that there must have been,yet bawks at the smell of death when the bodies were well removed ? Doesn't make sense to me.

Hahaha lookout are we in the same book In Search of Rainbow's End Part 2 Choices have you got that I would like a second opinion on the actual meaning of Colin's words.

[lookout]

 Oooops-----------no Susan,I've got a fixation on Claire Powell's book. Hang on.

Got it. Colin obviously hadn't known what was on some of the slides when he'd looked at them. Oh dear. He thought they were old ones of his own. Got a shock when he saw they were all full of " Bambs " in the nude. He'd always thought that Sheila would steer clear of " glamour work " and had said she must have been desperate for money.
Other nude shots had been found in June's bureau at WHF------------oh dear,again. They were what Colin had taken in the field at WHF,oooops.

If anyone exposed the nude ones,it would have been June,in order to shame Sheila-------which she had done.

[susan]

Oooops-----------no Susan,I've got a fixation on Claire Powell's book. Hang on.

Got it. Colin obviously hadn't known what was on some of the slides when he'd looked at them. Oh dear. He thought they were old ones of his own. Got a shock when he saw they were all full of " Bambs " in the nude. He'd always thought that Sheila would steer clear of " glamour work " and had said she must have been desperate for money.
Other nude shots had been found in June's bureau at WHF------------oh dear,again. They were what Colin had taken in the field at WHF,oooops.

If anyone exposed the nude ones,it would have been June,in order to shame Sheila-------which she had done.

Hahaha I thought I was going blind have you read it where Colin said in brackets "I did not know there were any famous ones" this made me think Colin was referring to the famous ones as the explicit ones because he would know all about the pictures Sheila had in her portfolio which had been published.