The meeting with The Sun newspaper:

[lookout]

 Jeremy " described ",but didn't show them ?

[Caroline]

Patti it is all so confusing I tend to think that Jeremy must have told the reporter what the photo's were  about did you say we have one in the Archives I cannot find it also the video did the makers show that they had negatives  or something.  Jeremy described them as slides in the book   If Jeremy did not sell them I guess the relatives would have returned them to Colin to be destroyed best thing for them let the poor girl rest in peace with some dignity

YES! Jeremy told the reporter what the pictures contained (it's in the documentary that Adam posted a link to) - we don't have a copy of any of those pictures on the forum. I think we would know if we did. The video doesn't show the pictures mentioned to the reporter because Jeremy didn't hand the pictures over - he probably destroyed them when he found they were worth nothing.

[susan]

I think I'm losing my mind. You explained things every well initially Susan and I don't know why there is so much confusion - we seem to be the only ones who have the gist but to clarify .....

2 sets of pictures, one at WHF that were just nude pictures and ones that Jeremy found at Sheila's flat that were explicit - the second set (the explicit pictures) are the ones Jeremy described to both Colin and the journalist, these are also the pictures he tried to sell to said journalist.

Caroline I am quite confused myself now hahaha 

[Caroline]

Jeremy " described ",but didn't show them ?

I think both Susan and I have written about 20 times that Jeremy DESCRIBED the photo's to BOTH the JOURNALIST and COLIN. I really don't know how to make it any clearer??? 

[susan]

YES! Jeremy told the reporter what the pictures contained (it's in the documentary that Adam posted a link to) - we don't have a copy of any of those pictures on the forum. I think we would know if we did. The video doesn't show the pictures mentioned to the reporter because Jeremy didn't hand the pictures over - he probably destroyed them when he found they were worth nothing.

Caroline this is why I could not find the picture in the Archives unfortunately I cannot get any sound on the Video so it is like watching a silent movie

[Caroline]

The account from the journalist can be found at the following link, move the progress bar to 33:00 and the journalist gives an account of what Jeremy told him the photographs contained.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcTvqLk0MWU

[Adam]

Jeremy found the pictures when rummaging around Sheila's flat.

I suspect he was looking at using it as his London base. In between his travels and guest appearances at WHF.

Does anyone know if the flat was bought and paid for. Or was there still a mortgage.

[lookout]

 This has been yet more vilification towards Jeremy who having been asked by the Sun newspaper if he had any pornographic pics,to which Jeremy had said no,but he'd been aware that Colin Caffell possessed some topless pics but no pornographic ones.
The journalist in question who'd asked for the pics,then decided to run a story which had reported such pics as having been offered them,so in turn reported the matter to the police. No pictures were ever obtained because they hadn't existed.
Which proves that Jeremy had never intended selling any pics to the newspapers.

[lookout]

The Sun asked Jeremy,not the other way around. Just because Sheila was a model. How vicious are journalists ?? They did a complete turnaround when nothing was coming forthwith so decided to use Jeremy -------------once again,mug that he was.

[susan]

Jeremy found the pictures when rummaging around Sheila's flat.

I suspect he was looking at using it as his London base. In between his travels and guest appearances at WHF.

Does anyone know if the flat was bought and paid for. Or was there still a mortgage.

Adam don't think Jeremy was rummaging around Sheila's flat he was emptying all the drawers and sorted out what Colin could take he placed all the twins things in black plastic bags.  Letters and photo's from Sheila's biological family were missing as well as Colin wanted them to keep her family safe from prying eyes .Most stuff was sold pictures and the like and he told Colin anything he wanted he could buy Some nude photo's were left for Colin along with Sheila's portfolio and photo's of his boys Colin was allowed to take them.

[Caroline]

This has been yet more vilification towards Jeremy who having been asked by the Sun newspaper if he had any pornographic pics,to which Jeremy had said no,but he'd been aware that Colin Caffell possessed some topless pics but no pornographic ones.
The journalist in question who'd asked for the pics,then decided to run a story which had reported such pics as having been offered them,so in turn reported the matter to the police. No pictures were ever obtained because they hadn't existed.
Which proves that Jeremy had never intended selling any pics to the newspapers.

That's not true Lookout and it's not backed up by Colin. Colin clearly stated that Jeremy told him he had found explicit pictures of Sheila and 'gloated when he told him they 'showed everything down to the last detail'.

[lookout]

The police gave Christine's letters to her brother,Peter ? is it.

[susan]

It's been written about 20 times what was said, it's not up for debate, it's in both Colin's book (which Susan posted) and the Journalist in question gives his account in the documentary posted by Adam. It's all there for people to check. No one need rely on anything I'm saying, they can check it themselves.

However, here is the transcript from the journalist in the documentary, which I am posting for Susan because she has no sound.



"We got a call from Jeremy Bamber's friend, Brett Collins; saying that Jeremy Bamber had some photographs to sell of his late sister and would 'we' The Sun newspaper, be interested in buying them. It was a bizarre situation. We were in an oldy worldy pub and we were talking about the photo's, what were they and what did they show? There was apparently shots with a vibrator and with a cucumber being used as a sex toy. Erm and would The Sun be interested in buying them? He said “well we want cash and would like to conclude this every quickly.” I never did see the photographs, whether they did exist or not, I don't know, I reported back to the office what the situation was and got a message back from the editor saying “Turn the bastard over” We ran the story the next day saying “Jeremy Bamber Tries to Sell Pornographic Pictures of his Sister.”

I was applauded, you know, you've got this very cool young man, completely unperturbed by the facts of the situation. The massacre, these dead people that had given him a home and he seemed completely unconcerned about them. He talked about Bambi particularly as an inanimate object, you know, it wasn't a sister that he had known and loved. He seemed completely unconcerned about these people. He wanted money and he wanted it quick."

Caroline
thanks for that I really appreciate knowing what was said with regard to the photo's so this should prove Jeremy did take them and try to sell them.  Shame on him.

[lookout]

That's not true Lookout and it's not backed up by Colin. Colin clearly stated that Jeremy told him he had found explicit pictures of Sheila and 'gloated when he told him they 'showed everything down to the last detail'.

Jeremy was kidding,as usual. All there were,were topless ones. The rest is hearsay. Jeremy's jokes which were once overlooked,suddenly became the truth when it suited everyone. I bet he could kick himself at times for having been so naïve that folk would decide to back-pedal on him.

[susan]

The police gave Christine's letters to her brother,Peter ? is it.

Lookout that is good to know they were kept private.