The meeting with The Sun newspaper:

[lookout]

June knew,nugs,. Maybe Neville too if June told him,so it would be easy to see how they,as a family,would have felt let down,especially Neville.

[Caroline]

all i can see is proof that jeremy and brett knew the photos existed but were they the only ones who knew.

Jeremy found them in Sheila's flat he admitted to Colin that he had them. Not sure what you're getting at? Surely you can see that the most likely culprit was Jeremy? Even if you think he's innocent the story has more than a ring of truth!

[Caroline]

June knew,nugs,. Maybe Neville too if June told him,so it would be easy to see how they,as a family,would have felt let down,especially Neville.

No she didn't Lookout, the explicit pictures are not the soft porn snaps that were at WHF. Read the quote that Susan typed out from Colin's book.

[Caroline]

Hello Jan

just looked in Colin's book and the nude photo's of Sheila which had been taken at WHF were found by Jeremy in a drawer at WHF he took them and said June probably found them at Sheila's flat and took them so she could use them as a hold on her if need be. Jeremy told Colin he had Sheila's portfolio at Goldhanger and he wanted to keep the "famous" ones himself. Colin found slides of nude Sheila but they were test shots and Jeremy was gloating (his words not mine) over Colin's shoulder that he had much more revealing shots and you see everything down to the last detail and laughed.  Colin said he found Jeremy's behaviour very distasteful looking and talking about nude photo's of his dead sister. Jeremy did admit having the photo's so   sad I think.

There were two lots of pictures, nude pictures taken at WHF and the explicit shots that Jeremy found in her flat. Colin also mentions some slides (possibly the negatives of the nude pictures at WHF). I doubt June would have kept any kind of explicit pictures of her daughter in a drawer at WHF.

[susan]

There were two lots of pictures, nude pictures taken at WHF and the explicit shots that Jeremy found in her flat. Colin also mentions some slides (possibly the negatives of the nude pictures at WHF). I doubt June would have kept any kind of explicit pictures of her daughter in a drawer at WHF.

Caroline been back in the book the nude photo's that Jeremy found in a bureau at WHF  were taken by Colin at the beginning of their relationship don't think June would have done anything with them that was just Jeremy's take on it the really explicit ones that showed everything down to the last detail (Jeremy's words) Jeremy took them and refused to let Colin have them back to destroy them

[lookout]

Colin,knowing that these pics were around,should have destroyed them,at least out of respect,before anyone else saw them.
What were they doing in a place where the children were,anyway ?

[lookout]

I can't understand that Sheila went beyond the bounds of this sort of photography when she'd stated that it wasn't going to happen.

[susan]

Colin,knowing that these pics were around,should have destroyed them,at least out of respect,before anyone else saw them.
What were they doing in a place where the children were,anyway ?

Hello Lookout

Colin did not know about the explicit photo's Sheila had them in her flat and of course Colin had no access Jeremy was staying there and allowed Colin to come and take his boys possessions and some of Sheila's stuff he was anxious to recover photo's and correspondence from Sheila's biological family but they had disappeared he knew nothing of these photo's till Jeremy told him about them and Colin wanted them to destroy them but Jeremy would not give them to him.  Colin did say Sheila always said she would never go down this road and he thought Sheila must have been desperate to do this.  Hope Colin did get them in the end to destroy it is so sad.

[lookout]

Hello Lookout

Colin did not know about the explicit photo's Sheila had them in her flat and of course Colin had no access Jeremy was staying there and allowed Colin to come and take his boys possessions and some of Sheila's stuff he was anxious to recover photo's and correspondence from Sheila's biological family but they had disappeared he knew nothing of these photo's till Jeremy told him about them and Colin wanted them to destroy them but Jeremy would not give them to him.  Colin did say Sheila always said she would never go down this road and he thought Sheila must have been desperate to do this.  Hope Colin did get them in the end to destroy it is so sad.

You'd have thought that even Jeremy would have immediately burned them out of respect. At the same time,you've also got to question Sheila's desperation in wanting such filth exposed,particularly to the photographer. So neither sibling had the respect that they were brought up with.

[lookout]

Which makes you think that Sheila wasn't the religious fanatic as has been made out,or she wouldn't have allowed her body to have been used in this way. My thoughts.

[maggie]

Hello Lookout

Colin did not know about the explicit photo's Sheila had them in her flat and of course Colin had no access Jeremy was staying there and allowed Colin to come and take his boys possessions and some of Sheila's stuff he was anxious to recover photo's and correspondence from Sheila's biological family but they had disappeared he knew nothing of these photo's till Jeremy told him about them and Colin wanted them to destroy them but Jeremy would not give them to him.  Colin did say Sheila always said she would never go down this road and he thought Sheila must have been desperate to do this.  Hope Colin did get them in the end to destroy it is so sad.

Hi suse, I have never read Colin's book and although I knew about the photos and they had been discussed many times before but it was from a different angle.  Am pretty shocked about this actually and if it's true cannot find any excuse for JB behaving like this..... disgusting imo.

[Patti]

The reporter claimed he never saw the photographs. 

I am not saying that this ifs right far from it, it disgusts me.

But, surely both Brett and Jeremy must have known that these type of explicit photographs using sex toys would never be published. Topless photo's yes but, the way the reporter described them they were hard porn.  I can't see Sheila doing anything like whilst married to Colin.

If Colin did  not know about the photographs, then Sheila must have had the photo's taken after they had split up.  Colin also said that Sheila would never go down that road, yet also said she must have been desperate to have done this.  Did Jeremy show them to Colin?   

[lookout]

 Those photographers are the sleaziest monsters who,some of them prey on the vulnerable,to their own filthy satisfaction. Pity we didn't know who the photographer was.
Where were these pics taken,does anyone know ?

It's no wonder both parents felt let down.

[susan]

The reporter claimed he never saw the photographs. 

I am not saying that this ifs right far from it, it disgusts me.

But, surely both Brett and Jeremy must have known that these type of explicit photographs using sex toys would never be published. Topless photo's yes but, the way the reporter described them they were hard porn.  I can't see Sheila doing anything like whilst married to Colin.

If Colin did  not know about the photographs, then Sheila must have had the photo's taken after they had split up.  Colin also said that Sheila would never go down that road, yet also said she must have been desperate to have done this.  Did Jeremy show them to Colin?   

Patti according to Colin Jeremy had already taken the photo's and had them at Goldhanger so I guess Colin never saw them maybe he eventually got hold of them and destroyed them.  It was never mentioned about sex toys just that they were explicit down to the last detail I would take the sex toys with a pinch of salt

[maggie]

The reporter claimed he never saw the photographs. 

I am not saying that this ifs right far from it, it disgusts me.

But, surely both Brett and Jeremy must have known that these type of explicit photographs using sex toys would never be published. Topless photo's yes but, the way the reporter described them they were hard porn.  I can't see Sheila doing anything like whilst married to Colin.

If Colin did  not know about the photographs, then Sheila must have had the photo's taken after they had split up.  Colin also said that Sheila would never go down that road, yet also said she must have been desperate to have done this.  Did Jeremy show them to Colin?   

I agree Patti it sounds crazy that they would have done such a thing, a. because it's so disgusting and b. because it's so stupid, if you were guilty of such a crime and trying to blame Sheila what would be the point of such behaviour?  Even if JB is a full blown psychopath who believed he could get away with anything, surely Brett would have told him it wasn't the place or time for such actions?