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Re: A Disturbing Allegation!
« Reply #75 on: June 25, 2015, 11:53:AM »
it raises some intresting points though id like to know more about the mcanzie organisation who these doctors are andd how they got involved in this.


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Re: A Disturbing Allegation!
« Reply #76 on: June 25, 2015, 11:56:AM »

It highlights the depths to which SOME will sink to try to get Jeremy released.






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Re: A Disturbing Allegation!
« Reply #77 on: June 25, 2015, 11:58:AM »





I'm NOT that desperate.

I think MOST poster here on both side will view the allegation as sick! Least most of us will be able to agree on something!!
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Re: A Disturbing Allegation!
« Reply #78 on: June 25, 2015, 12:02:PM »
It's a very dangerous area. Probably suggested by a crank. Anyhow,it's sick. 
Why don't the relatives look into it and report it ? They're good at investigating.

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Re: A Disturbing Allegation!
« Reply #79 on: June 25, 2015, 12:15:PM »





I'm NOT that desperate.


Aww, Lookout, Not for a MOMENT was I suggesting such :o

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Re: A Disturbing Allegation!
« Reply #80 on: June 25, 2015, 12:24:PM »
if this was alleged in a report there must be some sort of record of who alleged it.

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« Reply #81 on: June 25, 2015, 02:00:PM »
mike you made this allegation from was it from the mckenzie report.

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Re: A Disturbing Allegation!
« Reply #82 on: June 29, 2015, 10:15:PM »
The only way you could put this allegation to a conclusion is by exhuming the graves of the twins take DNA samples from their teeth then compare it to Colin's DNA.

I doubt anyone would be allowed to do this. But take on the challenge if you want to  ::)

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Re: A Disturbing Allegation!
« Reply #83 on: June 29, 2015, 10:40:PM »
you need to justify doing and i dont think theres a good enough justifacation im more interested in tracing the original source for who said it.

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Re: A Disturbing Allegation!
« Reply #84 on: June 30, 2015, 01:11:AM »
The only way you could put this allegation to a conclusion is by exhuming the graves of the twins take DNA samples from their teeth then compare it to Colin's DNA.

I doubt anyone would be allowed to do this. But take on the challenge if you want to  ::)

You are forgetting something. The DNA of at least one of the boys was found in the moderator.  The main contributor in 2 tested areas was one or both of the boys.  The people doing such testing didn't notice any similarity to Nevill's DNA.  The MacKenzie report predated the DNA testing by many years. As part of the process of figuring out who the main contributors were they looked at the DNA of Neivll's relatives as well as Sheila's birth mother.  There was no commonality seen between the DNA belonging to the boys and Nevill but rather simply commonality with Sheila indicating a relation to Sheila.  That is how we know it was the boys. So there actually is evidence suggesting this wacky scenario is not true.  But that is not surprising since the sole basis of the allegation was the simple fact that the boys had the same blood type as Nevill.

Sheila had type A blood and the boys type O blood so what blood type did their father have?  Handy 8th grade science provides the answer A, B or O.  Isn't that helpful that only eliminates the 2% of UK men who had AB blood as their father... So just based on this one factor 98% of UK men in existence when they were conceived could be their father. What blood type are you and were you over 16 at the time they were conceived?  :P

   

 
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« Reply #85 on: June 30, 2015, 10:12:PM »
but where did the mckenzie report get it from.

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Re: A Disturbing Allegation!
« Reply #86 on: June 30, 2015, 11:01:PM »
You are forgetting something. The DNA of at least one of the boys was found in the moderator.  The main contributor in 2 tested areas was one or both of the boys.  The people doing such testing didn't notice any similarity to Nevill's DNA.  The MacKenzie report predated the DNA testing by many years. As part of the process of figuring out who the main contributors were they looked at the DNA of Neivll's relatives as well as Sheila's birth mother.  There was no commonality seen between the DNA belonging to the boys and Nevill but rather simply commonality with Sheila indicating a relation to Sheila.  That is how we know it was the boys. So there actually is evidence suggesting this wacky scenario is not true.  But that is not surprising since the sole basis of the allegation was the simple fact that the boys had the same blood type as Nevill.

Sheila had type A blood and the boys type O blood so what blood type did their father have?  Handy 8th grade science provides the answer A, B or O.  Isn't that helpful that only eliminates the 2% of UK men who had AB blood as their father... So just based on this one factor 98% of UK men in existence when they were conceived could be their father. What blood type are you and were you over 16 at the time they were conceived?  :P

 

I thought you said the DNA had not come from blood so must have got there from contamination ?

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Re: A Disturbing Allegation!
« Reply #87 on: June 30, 2015, 11:03:PM »
but where did the mckenzie report get it from.

They decided that since Nevill had the same blood type as the boys that means he could potentially be their father.  That is the sole basis of their suggestion.  They were so far in the tank for Jeremy they thought perhaps they could parlay this allegation as a motive for Sheila killing herself and everyone else.

 
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Re: A Disturbing Allegation!
« Reply #88 on: June 30, 2015, 11:08:PM »
I thought you said the DNA had not come from blood so must have got there from contamination ?

What does that have to do with the issue at hand?  It makes no difference how the twin's DNA got inside or whether it was saliva based, skin based or blood based. All that matters is one (or both) of their DNA was compared to Nevill's and no one notice any similarities.   
 
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Re: A Disturbing Allegation!
« Reply #89 on: July 05, 2015, 07:13:PM »
You are forgetting something. The DNA of at least one of the boys was found in the moderator.  The main contributor in 2 tested areas was one or both of the boys.  The people doing such testing didn't notice any similarity to Nevill's DNA.  The MacKenzie report predated the DNA testing by many years. As part of the process of figuring out who the main contributors were they looked at the DNA of Neivll's relatives as well as Sheila's birth mother.  There was no commonality seen between the DNA belonging to the boys and Nevill but rather simply commonality with Sheila indicating a relation to Sheila.  That is how we know it was the boys. So there actually is evidence suggesting this wacky scenario is not true.  But that is not surprising since the sole basis of the allegation was the simple fact that the boys had the same blood type as Nevill.

Sheila had type A blood and the boys type O blood so what blood type did their father have?  Handy 8th grade science provides the answer A, B or O.  Isn't that helpful that only eliminates the 2% of UK men who had AB blood as their father... So just based on this one factor 98% of UK men in existence when they were conceived could be their father. What blood type are you and were you over 16 at the time they were conceived?  :P

 

Where did you read that Scip? How would they know it was the DNA of one of the twins, if they had nothing to test it against? A source for this would be helpful as I would like to read it and I imagine others would too.
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