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[guest154]

Good cutting and pasting, eh Mat?

 

Yes, am proud.

[Adam]

Is this all your own work Adam?  Or are you quoting extracts again?  By the way all points have been answers on various old threads.

I cut and pasted it. In reply to Lookouts request. Hopefully Lookout will reply to my request for a source yesterday,  about Julie's smuggling of drugs from Canada.

I have cut and pasted this article before, and said it was cut and pasted.

Jan you must stop supporting Jeremy. April and Caroline felt so strongly in his innocence, they were moderators and put up huge long term resistance after I joined. But even they can only do so much fire fighting and changed stance and stopped moderating. 

It alarms me that you are still in denial.

[lookout]

 Taken from the " Campaign for Freedom " site :

Back in 1991 COLP had investigated Essex Police,they detailed a list of crimes which JM had confessed to carrying out undetected. These included taking cannabis,selling cannabis,accessory to burglary at the caravan park,smuggling drugs back to the UK from Canada and cheque-book fraud.

As we all know she was given immunity as a trade-off for standing as a prosecution witness. Documents relating to this are held under PII.

There is documentation supporting the above.

[Caroline]

Taken from the " Campaign for Freedom " site :

Back in 1991 COLP had investigated Essex Police,they detailed a list of crimes which JM had confessed to carrying out undetected. These included taking cannabis,selling cannabis,accessory to burglary at the caravan park,smuggling drugs back to the UK from Canada and cheque-book fraud.

As we all know she was given immunity as a trade-off for standing as a prosecution witness. Documents relating to this are held under PII.

There is documentation supporting the above.

Jeremy has almost everything held under PII - ask him, next time you write.

[lookout]

 The reason for JM being " afraid for her life " has NOTHING to do with Jeremy being a " murderer ",but everything to do with the lies she told in her testimony which,if brought into the open,would have catastrophic effects all round and the backlash would be enormous,but she'd have NO fear of Jeremy at all as he doesn't bear malice like others do.
I have it on good authority that family life in Canada hasn't been all its cracked up to be because of the knowledge that the testimony hadn't been altogether truthful. To say it's caused some consternation is an understatement.
If immunity was granted at the beginning,it would be worth settling for that again in order to receive a written confession.

Makes me wonder about others who are " afraid for their lives " who were obliged to follow the same route !!!

If that sentence is repeated often enough,Jeremy stays where he is. The public has more power that the authorities when a prisoner has been convicted for murder.

[Caroline]

The reason for JM being " afraid for her life " has NOTHING to do with Jeremy being a " murderer ",but everything to do with the lies she told in her testimony which,if brought into the open,would have catastrophic effects all round and the backlash would be enormous,but she'd have NO fear of Jeremy at all as he doesn't bear malice like others do.
I have it on good authority that family life in Canada hasn't been all its cracked up to be because of the knowledge that the testimony hadn't been altogether truthful. To say it's caused some consternation is an understatement.
If immunity was granted at the beginning,it would be worth settling for that again in order to receive a written confession.

Makes me wonder about others who are " afraid for their lives " who were obliged to follow the same route !!!

If that sentence is repeated often enough,Jeremy stays where he is. The public has more power that the authorities when a prisoner has been convicted for murder.

Really? I beg to differ Lookout 

In the main, the public believe (quite rightly) that he's guilty, he doesn't have enough support to raise a draft, never mind a concern that he's innocent. There is a reason for that!

[Jane]

The reason for JM being " afraid for her life " has NOTHING to do with Jeremy being a " murderer ",but everything to do with the lies she told in her testimony which,if brought into the open,would have catastrophic effects all round and the backlash would be enormous,but she'd have NO fear of Jeremy at all as he doesn't bear malice like others do.
I have it on good authority that family life in Canada hasn't been all its cracked up to be because of the knowledge that the testimony hadn't been altogether truthful. To say it's caused some consternation is an understatement.
If immunity was granted at the beginning,it would be worth settling for that again in order to receive a written confession.

Makes me wonder about others who are " afraid for their lives " who were obliged to follow the same route !!!

If that sentence is repeated often enough,Jeremy stays where he is. The public has more power that the authorities when a prisoner has been convicted for murder.

SUCH sweeping statements, Lookout!!! the majority of which you CANNOT know as factual. I can only assume, from what you say about Julie's Canadian life that at some moment she's confessed to lying under oath. Indeed, she may have.............to a counsellor or priest, BOTH bound, as am I, by rules of confidentiality.

Saying that Jeremy bears no malice -and THAT can't be proved- has nothing to do with her supposed fear of him. I think she has every right to feel it. I think she was far more complicit in what happened than she revealed but she got in first. Without admitting his own part in it, Jeremy can't say what was her part.......................but that COULD change at any time and it's something that she has to live with. All the counsellors and priests in the world won't take that away.

[lookout]

SUCH sweeping statements, Lookout!!! the majority of which you CANNOT know as factual. I can only assume, from what you say about Julie's Canadian life that at some moment she's confessed to lying under oath. Indeed, she may have.............to a counsellor or priest, BOTH bound, as am I, by rules of confidentiality.

Saying that Jeremy bears no malice -and THAT can't be proved- has nothing to do with her supposed fear of him. I think she has every right to feel it. I think she was far more complicit in what happened than she revealed but she got in first. Without admitting his own part in it, Jeremy can't say what was her part.......................but that COULD change at any time and it's something that she has to live with. All the counsellors and priests in the world won't take that away.

April,I've only explained part of what I know to be true. I don't want to elaborate at this juncture,so this is just a spattering.

[Jane]

April,I've only explained part of what I know to be true. I don't want to elaborate at this juncture,so this is just a spattering.

Lookout, I fully understand that if you are holding on to something exciting part of you may be longing to either share it or at least let people know that you know something they don't. Things have a habit of not working out as we hope they might so it may be wiser, at this juncture, to say nothing. No hints and no smatterings.

[lookout]

Lookout, I fully understand that if you are holding on to something exciting part of you may be longing to either share it or at least let people know that you know something they don't. Things have a habit of not working out as we hope they might so it may be wiser, at this juncture, to say nothing. No hints and no smatterings.

No,I shan't say any more. I'll wait until it comes to fruition.

[lookout]

I'd like a thread to be bumped. It's something I've been reading.
 " Bambers Application for Prerogative of Pardon 2005 "

It's on a thread of this year,Feb 16th and was started by David 1819.

[Jane]

No,I shan't say any more. I'll wait until it comes to fruition.

Then you're in a win/win situation. You haven't lost face if it doesn't happen.................and you can crow as loud as you like if it does

[lookout]

Then you're in a win/win situation. You haven't lost face if it doesn't happen.................and you can crow as loud as you like if it does

That's about it.

[Adam]

Taken from the " Campaign for Freedom " site :

Back in 1991 COLP had investigated Essex Police,they detailed a list of crimes which JM had confessed to carrying out undetected. These included taking cannabis,selling cannabis,accessory to burglary at the caravan park,smuggling drugs back to the UK from Canada and cheque-book fraud.

As we all know she was given immunity as a trade-off for standing as a prosecution witness. Documents relating to this are held under PII.

There is documentation supporting the above.

Some of these crimes were not undetected.

The first thing she told the police about when she approached them, was the caravan break in.

The 1984 minor cheque book fraud was found out about after she had completed her WS.

It is well known Jeremy smuggled cannabis into England straight after the massacre. So Julie as his girlfriend may have taken some.

I have yet to see any other documentation of Julie smuggling drugs into England from Canada. Or of selling cannabis. The OS has no supporting documentation. Suspect they have just added these on to try to give the article more gravitas.

[Adam]

Julie is currently Director of Assessment and instructional support services for the Winnipeg School Division.

Funny how she didn't try to find another rich man where she could be lady of the manor.