How would you react ?

[maggie]

Does anyone know where the cottages where located on the farm?

I thought they were in the lane leading from the main road Patti but I could be wrong.

[Jane]

Would not Sheila have been screaming down the phone to Jeremy for help ??

That would have been rather silly. She wouldn't have got any reply as Jeremy was already there.

[Jane]

If that phonecall happened, I can imagine it would have been very confusing for Jeremy.
First, he was half asleep, secondly, he must have wondered why his father called him and not the police and deduced that the situation couldn´t be all that serious, still serious enough to call the local cops, thirdly, there had been incidents in the past where Sheila had a breakdown during the night.
I do think he called Julie, because he did not quite know what to do. She didn´t take his call seriously and told him to go back to bed.

According to Julie, all he said was that something was wrong at the farm but not to worry as all was going well which hardly sounds like a worried man who'd made a silly o' clock call to seek advice.........in fact what it sounds like is someone who is feeling rather pleased with themself.

[Alias]

According to Julie, all he said was that something was wrong at the farm but not to worry as all was going well which hardly sounds like a worried man who'd made a silly o' clock call to seek advice.........in fact what it sounds like is someone who is feeling rather pleased with themself.

The account of that phonecall cannot be verbatim, since it does not make sense.

[Patti]

I thought they were in the lane leading from the main road Patti but I could be wrong.

Hartley might know lol 

[lookout]

That would have been rather silly. She wouldn't have got any reply as Jeremy was already there.

Do you KNOW that ?

[lookout]

According to Julie, all he said was that something was wrong at the farm but not to worry as all was going well which hardly sounds like a worried man who'd made a silly o' clock call to seek advice.........in fact what it sounds like is someone who is feeling rather pleased with themself.

Did you listen in at the call as well ? 

[Jane]

Sound of breaking glass would travel too - you just asked "who would have heard."

But who would know where it came from? WHF stands in the middle of nowhere, surrounded by open fields, I'd guess 2-3 miles from the village either side of it.

[Jan]

It was said a shotgun shot was heard I believe - and that sounds very different to a rifle .

Personally I still think there could have been poachers around - nothing to do with the murders - it would explain the lamps that were allegedly found in the fields.

Pity they were not found though because they could have been the witnesses to JB cycling away from the house. ( note I did not add a sarcastic post script to this )

[Stephanie]

AH, but you may be reckoning without a mind set which is superior to your average everyday pleb -that's anyone who isn't him- and has planned this so carefully that he won't be suspected and has fed the girlfriend enough BS that if she SHOULD go to the police the story will be so ridiculous they won't believe her.

Agreed!

Oh yes that would work . Even though apparently family members are always the first suspects?

Why wouldn't it... He said himself he 'should have been an actor...'

[Patti]

I thought they were in the lane leading from the main road Patti but I could be wrong.

I wonder if these are the cottages Maggie???

Someone who lived close did make teas for the police so they must have lived close to the farm.

[Jane]

Did you listen in at the call as well ? 

Did Jeremy refute what she'd said? Lookout, in order for him to be innocent one has to attach the status of LIAR to each and EVERY person who had a hand in his conviction, each of whom will have needed to have had a different agenda which is part of what doesn't add up.

[nugnug]

So you're saying he knew all of that and called the local 'plod' with all that in mind? Yet when asked why he didn't call 999 he said 'I don't know'. That might have been the time to explain his cunning plan but sadly, he just 'didn't know'.

if he intended to go over there like hes dad told him to but was a bit frightend and just wanted a bit of back up local lod were the best people to call.

[Alias]

But who would know where it came from? WHF stands in the middle of nowhere, surrounded by open fields, I'd guess 2-3 miles from the village either side of it.

If you are threatened on your life, if you had a chance, you would do anything to attract help and not think about the distance to the closest neighbours. IMO

[Patti]

But who would know where it came from? WHF stands in the middle of nowhere, surrounded by open fields, I'd guess 2-3 miles from the village either side of it.

I think there are cottages close by. Did not one of them make a statement to say they heard Jeremy's car go down the lane that night on the 6th...and someone heard a shot?