How would you react ?

[Alias]

Isn't that more YOUR problem, than Caroline's?  Don't you feel that you're asking too much by expecting SO many (strangers!!!) to conform their behaviours to what suits you?

The board´s problem I would say.
There are valued posters who stay away from here because of the bullying that is going on. It is painful to watch.
And that is the last I will say, because we are heading for another closed thread - before you all jump on me, I am as guilty as anybody else of creating this particular argument.

[Caroline]

The board´s problem I would say.
There are valued posters who stay away from here because of the bullying that is going on. It is painful to watch.
And that is the last I will say, because we are heading for another closed thread - before you all jump on me, I am as guilty as anybody else of creating this particular argument.

You don't just watch Alias, like you say, you are as guilty as anyone. People were trying to debate earlier and you jumped in with sarcasm for no reason.

The rolled eyes icon is there for anyone to use and you have used it yourself. It seems if Alias doesn't like something - it's called bullying.

[Patti]

Can we get back to discussion please otherwise the thread will be closed.

Please remember its not what you say its how you come across.

Debates are tuning into personal arguments.

Any more and we will start removing posts.

[Alias]

Can we get back to discussion please otherwise the thread will be closed.

Please remember its not what you say its how you come across.

Debates are tuning into personal arguments.

Any more and we will start removing posts.

Yes, sorry, will do.

[SaraT]

I have a question for those who believe JB to be guilty, why do you think he rang the local police instead of 999?
What I mean is, if you think he is guilty and the whole thing was planned out why wouldn't he ring 999?

[guest154]

I have a question for those who believe JB to be guilty, why do you think he rang the local police instead of 999?

To slow down response times, so he could have a reason for delaying - having to look through the phone book for the number. If you call 999 you expect an EMERGENCY response. Can you imagine, blue lights - and arriving at the farmhouse only MINUTES after Jeremy called them after JUST speaking to Neville? Police go inside and everyone is already shot.

[Stephanie]

And it allows him to 'play things down' have the police believe he didn't realise how bad things were... So many theories...

[scipio_usmc]

I have a question for those who believe JB to be guilty, why do you think he rang the local police instead of 999?
What I mean is, if you think he is guilty and the whole thing was planned out why wouldn't he ring 999?

Either because he wanted to waste as much time as possible before police responded or he didn't mind wasting time because he knew they were dead so saw no urgency.  Had he actually received the call claimed he would have had no reason to call Julie at all let alone to call Julie before calling police then to further waste time by looking up numbers. 

[SaraT]

To slow down response times, so he could have a reason for delaying - having to look through the phone book for the number. If you call 999 you expect an EMERGENCY response. Can you imagine, blue lights - and arriving at the farmhouse only MINUTES after Jeremy called them after JUST speaking to Neville? Police go inside and everyone is already shot.

I see, thanks But would they have gone straight in?

[Jan]

another question - I just read a statement of an officer who was not called until gone 5am . He was told it was a siege situation with possible hostages being held or killed . Now why would they say that when they had not heard a single sound or apparently seen any movement at all? Jeremy had not said that any shots had been fired .they said they had challenged the house - but had no response - who where they challenging ? they had seen or heard  nothing . also one officer was told to retreat from his original position for his own safety?

[SaraT]

Either because he wanted to waste as much time as possible before police responded or he didn't mind wasting time because he knew they were dead so saw no urgency.  Had he actually received the call claimed he would have had no reason to call Julie at all let alone to call Julie before calling police then to further waste time by looking up numbers.

But would he not think that would cause suspicion? And why would he need to delay? If they were all dead why would it matter if the police went straight round?

[Patti]

But would he not think that would cause suspicion? And why would he need to delay? If they were all dead why would it matter if the police went straight round?

That is a very good point Sarah...

[lookout]

I see, thanks But would they have gone straight in?

They weren't suitably kitted out to confront anyone who was possibly armed,so no,they wouldn't have gone in.

[guest154]

And it allows him to 'play things down' have the police believe he didn't realise how bad things were... So many theories...

Good point actually.

I see, thanks But would they have gone straight in?

I've no idea and neither did he.

But would he not think that would cause suspicion? And why would he need to delay? If they were all dead why would it matter if the police went straight round?

Because the time he says Neville phoned him, that shows Neville was alive - he needs to delay things or Sheila has killed everyone within minutes, washed and killed herself.

another question - I just read a statement of an officer who was not called until gone 5am . He was told it was a siege situation with possible hostages being held or killed . Now why would they say that when they had not heard a single sound or apparently seen any movement at all? Jeremy had not said that any shots had been fired .they said they had challenged the house - but had no response - who where they challenging ? they had seen or heard  nothing . also one officer was told to retreat from his original position for his own safety?

They were going off the call Bamber says he recieved. Going off the information from Bamber. He says he got a call that his sister had gone beserk with the gun - they arrive outside, no response - even though Neville had asked Jeremy to come over - so that's why they believed it was a siege situation with possible hostages being held or killed .

They weren't suitably kitted out to confront anyone who was possibly armed,so no,they wouldn't have gone in.

You're speaking with hindsight.

[maggie]

Either because he wanted to waste as much time as possible before police responded or he didn't mind wasting time because he knew they were dead so saw no urgency.  Had he actually received the call claimed he would have had no reason to call Julie at all let alone to call Julie before calling police then to further waste time by looking up numbers.

You see this doesn't ring true to me, it seems like an excuse to explain away an awkward question.  You may be right but on the other hand there's every possibility you could be wrong.  He didn't waste very much time with what he did and there may have been an innocent explanation for it.
If he had received the call from Julie as he claimed there may not have been any reason for him to call Julie before or after calling the police in the world of Scipio but in Jeremy's world there may have been a very real reason.
I know you are about to call me a biased liar or something like that, please feel free.