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Re: How would you react ?
« Reply #240 on: April 18, 2015, 07:19:PM »
Something I can help you with Alias? Why the confusion? I think I've made it clear where I stand on the case but if it's slipped you mind. I think he's ......

GUILTY
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Please don´t be condescending towards me. Thank you.

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Re: How would you react ?
« Reply #241 on: April 18, 2015, 07:20:PM »
Perhaps it would be better if people made their opinions ON THE CASE clear? It's hard to tell if people just side with friends or actually have an opinion in favour of guilt of innocence.

I think all of us on both sides have made our opinions very clear - I don't doubt where any ones views are?

My only change of mind is how he came to be found guilty . I am not convinced of the alleged cock up on the day . But I still think he is innocent.

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Re: How would you react ?
« Reply #242 on: April 18, 2015, 07:21:PM »
Please don´t be condescending towards me. Thank you.

When you stop, I'll stop ...... but until then, I'll treat like with like - Thank YOU!
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Re: How would you react ?
« Reply #243 on: April 18, 2015, 07:21:PM »
But Colin did not suspect Jeremy at all until he was charged. He told him at the time he would support him after losing his family . And although he thinks he is guilty now I find it very strange that his book is more about Sheila and her relationship with her mother - not Jeremy .


I'm not surprised. I think the book was a public expression of his loss and writing it was -hopefully- cathartic. I think Jeremy was mostly incidental

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« Reply #244 on: April 18, 2015, 07:23:PM »

I'm not surprised. I think the book was a public expression of his loss and writing it was -hopefully- cathartic. I think Jeremy was mostly incidental

I agree, it was about about how he felt and how he came to terms with it.
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Re: How would you react ?
« Reply #245 on: April 18, 2015, 07:25:PM »
He can only write what he knows about though or whatever he felt he wanted to get off his chest.

Yes I agree and the book is mainly about his own journey. I just had ( and just to make it perfectly clear this is only my opinion and the way I read the book) this odd feeling that he was not totally convinced that JB was guilty at the time of the court case . He certainly did not think much of "the family" and the way he was treated by them .

Later on with the Arguments between him and Jeremy ( not getting into whether they were right or wrong) I think he was convinced - and like we are constantly being reminded he is guilty in the eyes of the law - therefore he must be guilty.

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« Reply #246 on: April 18, 2015, 07:26:PM »
I agree, it was about about how he felt and how he came to terms with it.

It's what you would expect really.  Claire Powell & Roger Wilkes were writing about the WHF crimes/trials and murders - Colin had a personal story of grief & loss.


Yes I agree and the book is mainly about his own journey. I just had ( and just to make it perfectly clear this is only my opinion and the way I read the book) this odd feeling that he was not totally convinced that JB was guilty at the time of the court case . He certainly did not think much of "the family" and the way he was treated by them .

Later on with the Arguments between him and Jeremy ( not getting into whether they were right or wrong) I think he was convinced - and like we are constantly being reminded he is guilty in the eyes of the law - therefore he must be guilty.

I would totally disagree to be honest. As far as I can tell from his own words, he is convinced.

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Re: How would you react ?
« Reply #247 on: April 18, 2015, 07:28:PM »

I'm not surprised. I think the book was a public expression of his loss and writing it was -hopefully- cathartic. I think Jeremy was mostly incidental

But would you not think he would somehow want to know why ? He did not seem to indicate that Money was the b all and end all to JB - so you would have thought he would have tried to understand why . He was very good at analysing sheilas situation. That's why I was surprised. Just my opinion that's all .


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« Reply #248 on: April 18, 2015, 07:29:PM »
Yes I agree and the book is mainly about his own journey. I just had ( and just to make it perfectly clear this is only my opinion and the way I read the book) this odd feeling that he was not totally convinced that JB was guilty at the time of the court case . He certainly did not think much of "the family" and the way he was treated by them .

Later on with the Arguments between him and Jeremy ( not getting into whether they were right or wrong) I think he was convinced - and like we are constantly being reminded he is guilty in the eyes of the law - therefore he must be guilty.

All I will say on this is that he was probably relieved when the case switched to Jeremy and found it easier to accept it was him instead of Sheila.
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Re: How would you react ?
« Reply #249 on: April 18, 2015, 07:31:PM »
So for someone to think they had a "watertight" case in Julies words - then you would have thought he would have planned everything very carefully ? Not as you are saying lie through his teeth so that in fact the very next day he could have been questioned about those lies that he told to the police?

It does not really make sense does it?



The point is, Jan, I believe he thought he HAD planned it so well that it WAS watertight. HE may have believed he was the Machiavelian Brain of Britain but the truth was otherwise.

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« Reply #250 on: April 18, 2015, 07:33:PM »
It's what you would expect really.  Claire Powell & Roger Wilkes were writing about the WHF crimes/trials and murders - Colin had a personal story of grief & loss.


I would totally disagree to be honest. As far as I can tell from his own words, he is convinced.


Yes I said he is convinced now - so we are agreeing :)

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Re: How would you react ?
« Reply #251 on: April 18, 2015, 07:34:PM »
All I will say on this is that he was probably relieved when the case switched to Jeremy and found it easier to accept it was him instead of Sheila.

Mat, did you see this?  ;)

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Re: How would you react ?
« Reply #252 on: April 18, 2015, 07:34:PM »
All I will say on this is that he was probably relieved when the case switched to Jeremy and found it easier to accept it was him instead of Sheila.

Well he was for a while worried he would be a suspect as well from what I remember because of what he thought about June .


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Re: How would you react ?
« Reply #253 on: April 18, 2015, 07:35:PM »
Mat, did you see this?  ;)

What about it??

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Re: How would you react ?
« Reply #254 on: April 18, 2015, 07:36:PM »
What about it??

That's what I'm wondering?  ::)
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