How would you react ?

[Jane]

It's an even bigger waste of resources,especially the public purse,to keep an innocent man in jail. Jeremy certainly won't be the only one either,except that he beats all records at 30 years so far.

The law won't agree with you because the law says he's guilty.

[Stephanie]

No need to snap !!

I didn't snap I merely responded.

[lookout]

The law won't agree with you because the law says he's guilty.

And how many times has the law been wrong ? Too many. Over the most serious of crimes as well,which makes one wonder whether they can hack these big cases.

[SaraT]

And how many times has the law been wrong ? Too many. Over the most serious of crimes as well,which makes one wonder whether they can hack these big cases.

The law has been wrong over and over again

[guest154]

The law has been wrong over and over again

It's also been right over and over again, so it's a mute point isn't it. Unless we're to release Bamber on the account of probability?

[Alias]

Because that's the condition Sheila was supposed to be in when she loaded the gun.

You can have ice cold, calculated (skewed) logic in the midst of a psychosis. You can also have actually planned whatever crazy thing you are doing.
People mostly assume that during a psychosis you are out of control and frothing at the mouth. That is far from the case always.

[Jane]

The law has been wrong over and over again

And how many times has the law been wrong ? Too many. Over the most serious of crimes as well,which makes one wonder whether they can hack these big cases.

Nothing can be 100% fail safe and that includes our judicial system but it's better than the rest. I AGREE that the law has been known to be wrong, but in this case, adding Jeremy's own behaviours into the equation, I think they got it right. It has to be recognized that for MOST who are found guilty, SOMEONE will say they were wrongly convicted. I'm told that there are VERY few guilty persons behind bars.

[Alias]

Did you xxxxx all your xxxxxxx like this?

Stephanie, this is super nasty and very personal.

For the record, I can see perfectly well where Lookout is coming from with this - just made a post along those lines. Hadn´t seen hers when I wrote it.

Very nasty.

[SaraT]

It's also been right over and over again, so it's a mute point isn't it. Unless we're to release Bamber on the account of probability?

We then if my point is mute so is yours isn't it?
Plus I didn't say JB should be released on account of probability

[Jan]

Was not one of the reasons they gave to do with cost? I can see that they probably wouldn't be interested. I imagine that all those involved with the case are either enjoying their retirement or pushing up daisies. As far as they're concerned the case is done and dusted and raking through the paperwork is a waste of human resources and the public purse.

one amongst many , but that was a fob off because I am sure if the money was offered they still would have refused . Personally I could not understand that because either PII rules apply or they don't. At least they were kind enough to let us know how many boxes there were.

[guest154]

We then if my point is mute so is yours isn't it?
Plus I didn't say JB should be released on account of probability

They are both mute points - Bamber didn't just land in prison though. There is evidence, he lost his trail, all his appeals - a JR agreed with the CCRC. There comes a time when guilt has been proven beyond a reasonable doubt, the same can not be said for the possibility of his innocence. But as April said there aren't many guilty men in prison. Even Charles Manson has his supporters.

[maggie]

You can have ice cold, calculated (skewed)clogic in the midst of a psychosis. You can also have actually planned whatever crazy thing you are doing.
People mostly assume that during a psychosis you are out of control and frothing at the mouth. That is far from the case always.

True, Alias to be psychotic is to have an 'abnormal condition of the mind' and it can present in various forms but all involve a 'loss of contact with reality' therefore although sometimes this causes a 'brainstorm' episode it can also be difficult to recognise other than a person may be severely withdrawn or show unconventional behaviour...... many different forms of psychosis.

[Caroline]

It's an even bigger waste of resources,especially the public purse,to keep an innocent man in jail. Jeremy certainly won't be the only one either,except that he beats all records at 30 years so far.

Good thing he's guilty then! 

[Jane]

one amongst many , but that was a fob off because I am sure if the money was offered they still would have refused . Personally I could not understand that because either PII rules apply or they don't. At least they were kind enough to let us know how many boxes there were.

Rather like what MIGHT have happened had Jeremy call 999, we'll never know the answer, will we?

[guest154]

You can have ice cold, calculated (skewed)clogic in the midst of a psychosis. You can also have actually planned whatever crazy thing you are doing.
People mostly assume that during a psychosis you are out of control and frothing at the mouth. That is far from the case always.

But they aren't exactly in a 'normal' mindset when in the midst of psychosis, are they? If they were there wouldn't be a name for it. So Carolines point that to do the experiment you'd need to have 100 women in the midst of psychosis - makes sense.