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Re: How would you react ?
« Reply #30 on: April 16, 2015, 11:03:PM »
I don't think the 'buzz' could have been any greater!
:) well that is a retrospective buzz that is still buzzing.

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« Reply #31 on: April 16, 2015, 11:06:PM »
:) well that is a retrospective buzz that is still buzzing.

Of course, the game is still afoot!
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Re: How would you react ?
« Reply #32 on: April 16, 2015, 11:08:PM »
:) well that is a retrospective buzz that is still buzzing.

Hi Sarah, welcome to the forum. Could you please introduce yourself in the foyer. Thank you.

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« Reply #33 on: April 16, 2015, 11:08:PM »
Of course, the game is still afoot!
It sure is!

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« Reply #34 on: April 16, 2015, 11:13:PM »
Hi Sarah, welcome to the forum. Could you please introduce yourself in the foyer. Thank you.
I think I did yonks ago and then haven't posted since

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Re: How would you react ?
« Reply #35 on: April 16, 2015, 11:14:PM »
Planning the perfect crime is different from carrying out the perfect crime. The question was how would you react and I am just answering honestly I would have reacted identically at the time. (What happened afterwards regarding times of calls etc is a separate issue)
  Hi SaraT, the call timings are indeed a separate issue and ridiculously used as a stick to beat JB by those who are willing to believe that any discrepancy on EP's part, and there are many, over timings are all understandable mistakes.

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« Reply #36 on: April 16, 2015, 11:15:PM »
I think I did yonks ago and then haven't posted since

Hi Sarah your first post is tonight. Would you kindly use the foyer to introduce yourself.  Thanks.

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« Reply #37 on: April 16, 2015, 11:21:PM »
Hi Sarah your first post is tonight. Would you kindly use the foyer to introduce yourself.  Thanks.

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,4842.0.html

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« Reply #39 on: April 16, 2015, 11:25:PM »
That's fine Sarah...You must have set up a new profile.  ;D

I must have done, probably forgot my password  :)

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« Reply #40 on: April 16, 2015, 11:32:PM »
  Hi SaraT, the call timings are indeed a separate issue and ridiculously used as a stick to beat JB by those who are willing to believe that any discrepancy on EP's part, and there are many, over timings are all understandable mistakes.

No EP discrepancy in Jeremy originally saying he called police between 03:15-03:20 and now that he called at 03:36 - JUST to fit in that call from Nevill. You know, that call that he 'implicitly' told Jeremy NOT to make!
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Re: How would you react ?
« Reply #41 on: April 16, 2015, 11:36:PM »
No EP discrepancy in Jeremy originally saying he called police between 03:15-03:20 and now that he called at 03:36 - JUST to fit in that call from Nevill. You know, that call that he 'implicitly' told Jeremy NOT to make!

And there were discrepancies regarding timings in relation to another case I'm familiar with. It turns out all our theories, excuses, whatever you want to call them, were wrong. That is why I suggest caution is used when approaching this case and others like it.
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Re: How would you react ?
« Reply #42 on: April 16, 2015, 11:39:PM »
Its all so easy in retrospect - We don't know everything about the family and their relationship because most of them cant tell us the truth.So how can we begin to judge . I can imagine as the call was brief and appeared to finish abruptly I would have tried to call back especially if I had not heard it all clearly .After that yes I would probably have called 999 - but we have to remember Jeremy may never have imagined at all what his sister could be capable of.

I will just tell you this - one night I very nearly died in a choking incident at home - it was so close that I thought I was going to die trying to make myself vomit over a bin - I burst a blood vessel in my eye and was on the point of passing out but I could not tell my family what to do because you can not speak. We all know my family should have called an ambulance before trying to help me - but they didn't. Because they were trying to establish what was happening and trying to save me ( none of them knew first aid)

Its easy to look back and say - well it turned out ok ( my husband saved me) but it may not have and then they would have done the wrong thing.

If it turns out JB is innocent - we could say he made a huge mistake in his actions - that's obvious now - or if he is guilty he made a huge mistake even trying to make up a phone call .

But personally I don't think asking what we would do makes one single bit of difference , even if you asked 100 people - they were not there - they did not hear the call and they do not know the family dynamics.

IMO  :) 

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Re: How would you react ?
« Reply #43 on: April 16, 2015, 11:46:PM »
well he was told not to arive before the police by the police.

No he wasn't, West told him to go right over he didn't say to wait for police to arrive before going.
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« Reply #44 on: April 16, 2015, 11:50:PM »
Neville makes his 'mysterious' call to Jeremy:

Jeremy says he tried to call back straight away.  Although that was not possible.

He decides not to go straight over. Although Neville had said 'please come over'.

He decides not to call 999. He thought 'it would not make any difference over how long it would take for them to arrive'. Although he didn't think that it takes time to look for the number of a police station.

He decides not to ring nearby farm workers. It 'did not occur to him' he said.

He decides not to ring nearby relatives.

He looks in the phone book and calls Witham police station. Or did he ? There is uncertainty here.

He still decides not to call 999. 

He looks in the phone book again and then calls Chelmsford. The forth furthest away police station. Well who wouldn't ?

He then calls Julie. Or was that before phoning the police ? Jeremy is  unsure. But he was sure to say 'no comment' when the police asked 'why' he called her ?

He puts on several layers of clothes on. Well you don't want to get chilly now do you ?

He drives slowly to WHF. Testifying that he did not want to arrive before the police.

Something this fails to take into account is that Sheila never showed any interest in guns and there was no indication she knew how to load and operate the weapon.  For her to grab the weapon in and of itself demonstrates something is wrong.  That she doesn't likely know how to use it though provides a reason to be more brave in the face of helping.

Politeness is organized indifference- Paul Valéry