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simong

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Re: Sheila's hands
« Reply #75 on: April 21, 2011, 02:38:PM »
Sandy, just ignore the lossy posters.  ;D

sandy

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Re: Sheila's hands
« Reply #76 on: April 21, 2011, 02:38:PM »
Absolute nonsense smiffy, there is no evidence that a female gouged Nevill arms that night or any time before.  Try reading the forensics.

sandy

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Re: Sheila's hands
« Reply #77 on: April 21, 2011, 02:39:PM »
Sandy, just ignore the lossy posters.  ;D

Oh I do try.

+1 Simon  ;)

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Re: Sheila's hands
« Reply #78 on: April 21, 2011, 02:46:PM »
the photographic evidence shows the pathologist to have given false evidence on that issue as you well know sandy as you are familiar with it.

flogging a dead horse on this issue sandy...
aww simong refers to lossy posters...meaning himself , sandy etc...clear for all to see eh
simong...obviosuly another that is in denial of the truth and without crediblity..

so obvious simong...so clear..so lossy...

not seen anything yet that clears sheila from killing the 4 others due to diminished responsibility.




sandy

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Re: Sheila's hands
« Reply #79 on: April 21, 2011, 02:50:PM »
So sad isn't it Simon?

simong

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Re: Sheila's hands
« Reply #80 on: April 22, 2011, 04:21:AM »
The fact that this guy who seems a nutter has got +29 on posting worries the hell out of me. Who will admit to giving them that?
« Last Edit: April 22, 2011, 04:23:AM by simong »

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Re: Sheila's hands
« Reply #81 on: April 22, 2011, 09:00:AM »
The fact that this guy who seems a nutter has got +29 on posting worries the hell out of me. Who will admit to giving them that?

Not me, but I don't join in with that smite/applaud business anyway. However, some of smiffy's posts have been very detailed and interesting about blood patterns, etc, so maybe he got the applauds for those.  ;D

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Re: Sheila's hands
« Reply #82 on: April 22, 2011, 09:22:AM »

simong posted..about myself;

The fact that this guy who seems a nutter has got +29 on posting worries the hell out of me. Who will admit to giving them that?

Well I am no nutter...in fact I am a very responsible person and single parent father...you know parental responsibility awarded by court etc...
no criminal convictions..or points on driving licence I have held for over 30 years etc.
no mental health problems etc.

now  you seem to have jumped to a "viewpoint"   (seems a nutter) simong that has no substance very very easily....that could imply that you are a bad judge of character..or could be that you just choose to be hostile to someone who airs a viewpoint you oppose but rather than you challenge with reason ...you elect to namecall or smear by implication.

why should I worry the hell out of you?  ...thats interesting...I like that.
I am capable simong....very capable..

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back to sheila's hands

in the crime scene pictures the index finger of Sheila's left hand is differently positioned from the rest of her fingers on that hand...does anyone feel this is significant...?

could her left index finger have been strained in some way ...making it ..when dead appear more relaxed or something than her other fingers.
tendons weakend by injury in the distant past or recent past...could these have a bearing on this?
There is mention of a previous incident a while before the events of THAT NIGHT when she punched/struck glass and broke the glass with her hand/hands.





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Re: Sheila's hands
« Reply #83 on: April 22, 2011, 10:00:AM »
Smiffy, you seem to be quite knowledgable of this case, and a lot of the posters as well.
Can I ask why it took you so long to join this forum.
I am only curious, so you need not answer, thanks.

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Re: Sheila's hands
« Reply #84 on: April 22, 2011, 10:23:AM »
I only know two posters...from previous forums that are on this forum.

Nugnug I know from several forums and he is a perfectly reasonable fellow and though we disagree on some issues and have differences of opinion there is no abuse between myself and him.

John Lamberton ..who posts here under the names of "John" and "Sandy"...is another kettle of fish altogether. He is very well known on some of forums I have been on before and generally hostile to most other posters and has been caught lying and abusing people many times.  His using multiple user names has occurred on every forum I have encountered him on or seen him using even when I have never joined those forums.  He has used the sandy name and john names before on other forums and many other names as well.

I have only recently joined this forum as I was doing other things previously. JB's case started to attract my attention 6 months ago and prior to that I was unaware of just what a strong case of wrongful conviction it was. 

Around the time of the murder the media seemed to alienate JB  by portraying him as being some spoilt sort of rich boy and in my view that put myself off ...and probably many others ...from taking a close look or much interest at the time.
However much I may not like or approve of some peoples lifestyles or social status  that are different from my own it does not in my view mean I should ignore cases of wrongful conviction and that innocent people should be jailed for crimes they did not commit.

 What happened to JB as wrong and needs to be corrected and if my posts help then that can only be a good thing.





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Re: Sheila's hands
« Reply #85 on: April 22, 2011, 10:23:AM »



in the crime scene pictures the index finger of Sheila's left hand is differently positioned from the rest of her fingers on that hand...does anyone feel this is significant...?

could her left index finger have been strained in some way ...making it ..when dead appear more relaxed or something than her other fingers.
tendons weakend by injury in the distant past or recent past...could these have a bearing on this?
There is mention of a previous incident a while before the events of THAT NIGHT when she punched/struck glass and broke the glass with her hand/hands.
So how is this significant smiffy? I can't see the connection?

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Re: Sheila's hands
« Reply #86 on: April 22, 2011, 10:25:AM »
I only know two posters...from previous forums that are on this forum.

Nugnug I know from several forums and he is a perfectly reasonable fellow and though we disagree on some issues and have differences of opinion there is no abuse between myself and him.

John Lamberton ..who posts here under the names of "John" and "Sandy"...is another kettle of fish altogether. He is very well known on some of forums I have been on before and generally hostile to most other posters and has been caught lying and abusing people many times.  His using multiple user names has occurred on every forum I have encountered him on or seen him using even when I have never joined those forums.  He has used the sandy name and john names before on other forums and many other names as well.

I have only recently joined this forum as I was doing other things previously. JB's case started to attract my attention 6 months ago and prior to that I was unaware of just what a strong case of wrongful conviction it was. 

Around the time of the murder the media seemed to alienate JB  by portraying him as being some spoilt sort of rich boy and in my view that put myself off ...and probably many others ...from taking a close look or much interest at the time.
However much I may not like or approve of some peoples lifestyles or social status  that are different from my own it does not in my view mean I should ignore cases of wrongful conviction and that innocent people should be jailed for crimes they did not commit.

 What happened to JB as wrong and needs to be corrected and if my posts help then that can only be a good thing.
Thank you for informing us of these things smiffy.

chochokeira

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Re: Sheila's hands
« Reply #87 on: April 22, 2011, 10:31:AM »

One wonders why the gouge marks were not mentioned....Come up with your own ideas. The absence of an explantion could well be because the report was designed with the intention of prosecution in mind and such information about the gouges would aid the defence. Missing out pertinent information can be just as deceptive as out right lying.


Excellent point, Smiffy. A point that those of the JB was guilty school of thought need to properly address. Can you elaborate on this point? +1

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Re: Sheila's hands
« Reply #88 on: April 22, 2011, 11:45:AM »
I carry out statement analysis and the pathologists statement on Ralphs arm shouts to me in the strongest of terms  that he knew full well what the real cause of the injuries were and that while not telling lies he was so economical with the truth that anyone listening or reading would be highly  likely to be misled. There was out and out deception  in my view on this issue because the truth of the injuries would support the claims JB made about the phone call from Ralph in which Sheila had gone crazy.
It would also place a female as being involved at the critical time.




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Re: Sheila's hands
« Reply #89 on: April 22, 2011, 11:54:AM »
I carry out statement analysis and the pathologists statement on Ralphs arm shouts to me in the strongest of terms  that he knew full well what the real cause of the injuries were and that while not telling lies he was so economical with the truth that anyone listening or reading would be highly  likely to be misled. There was out and out deception  in my view on this issue because the truth of the injuries would support the claims JB made about the phone call from Ralph in which Sheila had gone crazy.
It would also place a female as being involved at the critical time.

What does "I carry out statement analysis" mean?

How do you draw these conclusions from the page you posted?