A fair trial?

[Jackiepreece]

There was a case quite some time ago about two sisters found guilty of murder that won an appeal something to do with the press handling of the case I think photos etc

I think it was assumed the girls were guilty but let out on a technicality does anyone know the case?

[clifford]

Fact is if you have a lot of money you can get away with murder, [OJ Smpson].
I wonder if JB had been loaded, and could afford top council would the outcome of his trial been different.

[Kaldin]

There was a case quite some time ago about two sisters found guilty of murder that won an appeal something to do with the press handling of the case I think photos etc

I think it was assumed the girls were guilty but let out on a technicality does anyone know the case?

Yes, it was Michelle and Lisa Taylor who were jailed for the murder of Alison Shaugnessy.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/murder-trial-sisters-convicted-by-the-media-court-of-appeal-is-told-that-police-concealed-evidence-which-might-have-pointed-to-michelle-and-lisa-taylors-innocence-in-a-case-that-was-always-thin-1491035.html

[Jackiepreece]

Sorry not a technicality i was wrong but quite a serious miscarriage of justice because evidence witheld from the defence and media in trouble for their part.  I wonder who witheld the evidence? and if they got in trouble or prosecuted

[bob]

There was a case quite some time ago about two sisters found guilty of murder that won an appeal something to do with the press handling of the case I think photos etc

I think it was assumed the girls were guilty but let out on a technicality does anyone know the case?

Yes, it was Michelle and Lisa Taylor who were jailed for the murder of Alison Shaugnessy.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/murder-trial-sisters-convicted-by-the-media-court-of-appeal-is-told-that-police-concealed-evidence-which-might-have-pointed-to-michelle-and-lisa-taylors-innocence-in-a-case-that-was-always-thin-1491035.html

I just tried to find out if they ever caught the "real" killer, and this is an interesting quote from Bernard O'Mahoney's Wikipedia entry:

"The Dream Solution

Published in September 2001, it tells of Bernard O'Mahoney's relationship with Michelle Taylor, a woman in her twenties, who along with her sister Lisa was convicted of murdering love rival Alison Shaughnessy in 1991, only to have their convictions quashed on appeal the following year. O'Mahoney played a big part in getting the pair's convictions quashed, but by the end of his relationship with Michelle he became convinced that the pair really had committed the murder he had spent months helping them get cleared of"

[Jackiepreece]

To be honest Bob I thought I had read something like that about that got off but people still think they did it but then i have just read the article Kaldin posted in the Independant but now it looks like they were inncocent?

I think I pulled that case because the part the press played in it like the pictures of JB smiling looked bad but he has said since he was smiling at friends like i am coping ok

As i have said before i think he was stupid but not that stupid but obviously that smile could be interpreted lots of ways

[Jackiepreece]

 72% of crime scene photos still witheld under pii = unfair trial

I know nothing about crime scene photos but that figure seems way to high

[Alias]

To be honest Bob I thought I had read something like that about that got off but people still think they did it but then i have just read the article Kaldin posted in the Independant but now it looks like they were inncocent?

I think I pulled that case because the part the press played in it like the pictures of JB smiling looked bad but he has said since he was smiling at friends like i am coping ok

As i have said before i think he was stupid but not that stupid but obviously that smile could be interpreted lots of ways

People read all kinds of things into expressions or bodylanguage - especially when it comes to high profile criminal cases!
If JB had looked down, he´d have looked guilty, if he´d looked serious, he´d have looked guilty. There is nothing you can do right in situations like that!

[Jackiepreece]

Thats what I think but so much has been made of it and when it is bought up on here people look at videos of jb trying to tell if he looks guilty or not

I find that really strange i always feel a bit guilty when i go through customs even though i have nothing to hide

[bigpod]

My main reason for feeling things were unfair is the amount of withheld evidence. I understand the use of PII's in national defence, but not in this case.

[lucy70]

72% of crime scene photos still witheld under pii = unfair trial

I know nothing about crime scene photos but that figure seems way to high

Where's the evidence that 72% of crime scene photos have been witheld??

[Jackiepreece]

I think it comes from the Defence team and it's on the official website I think

I don't know if this is from the first file

[lucy70]

I think it comes from the Defence team and it's on the official website I think

I don't know if this is from the first file

So you don't really know for a fact then and can't supply real evidence to support your claim? :-)

[Jackiepreece]

Lucy I will find the information tonight or tomorrow.  Mike might have it already.  You are questioning what I have put do you know different?

Please correct me if you do

[grahameb]

Lucy I will find the information tonight or tomorrow.  Mike might have it already.  You are questioning what I have put do you know different?

Please correct me if you do

I remember Mike referring to it somewhere.