13 bullet cases in m/bedroom, yet no follower plate mark found on them...

[mike tesko]

Fact: Sgt Jeapes said the window she saw something in was the upper floor window surrounded by grey brick.

The main bedroom window where the anshuzt rifle was later photographed by PC Bird, is also surrounded by grey brick...

[scipio_usmc]

From the corner of the shed she could not possibly have been covering both WHITE / RED sides of the farmhouse...

She wasn't covering the white/red side she was covering the white side.  She made it clear she saw the kitchen door, and kitchen window and was by the corner of the shed at the white containment location.  The people she replaced had been covering the white containment location. Moule and 2 others were covering the red/white containment location.  She INCORRECTLY thought she was at the red/white location when in fact she was at the white location. You intentionally keep ignoring the police who were ACTUALLY at the red/white location so she could not have been there, IGNORING that the men she replaced were at the white location so by extension that means she was at the white location, and IGNORING the physical descriptions which clearly describe the white containment location.

Moule was at the red/white containment location and she admits she was not at the same site as him he was to the site right of her.  So that right there proves she was wrong in claiming she was at the red/white containment location.  You are fighting a battle you can't win.

 

[mike tesko]

Fact: Sgt. Jeapes said the door was the kitchen door and the window to the left was the kitchen window

No, she says FRONT DOOR, and a window to the right of that door, which she believed was the kitchen, but she was wrong because the window to the right of the front door as she viewed it whilst covering WHITE / RED sides, was / is the dining room, not the kitchen. There is no way she could have known which window on RED SIDE related to which room, she was merely speculating, nothing more, nothing less...

[scipio_usmc]

In firearm terms she was covering WHITE / RED, now how can relieving men on the WHITE side of the farm house, result in her covering WHITE / RED sides of the farmhouse? Plus the raid team approached the rear door on WHITE side of the building, from the direction of RED side of the same building, albeit by following the curved wall previously depicted in posted diagrams...

Her claim that she was covering the red/white side is objectively wrong.  Moule, Mindinhall and Brown were the ones covering the red/white corner so she can't have been.  The men she replaced were covering the white side so objectively that proves she was at the white containment site. The physical descriptions she gave correspond to the white containment site not the red/white corner. 

Beyond all doubt she erroneously wrote she was at the white/red containment site when in fact she was at the white containment site.

[mike tesko]

Fact: there was no green/white corner containment location

Yes, there was / is...

[scipio_usmc]

Which way was she facing when she says that Moule was to her right?

Was she facing towards the farmhouse, was she facing with her back to the farmhouse, or sideways?

Apart from logic saying she was talking about facing the farmhouse, if she had her back to the farmhouse the position to the right would be the white containment position not green/white and Moule was not there.  Furthermore she would not have been near the corner of any shed.  The red/white position had a hedge dividing that area from the white containment position.  The hedge would have prevented her from being near the shed. The people she said she took over for were covering the white side which in turn eans she took over at white.  You are waging a battle you can't win.

[scipio_usmc]

Yes, there was / is...

No there wasn't.  The white green corner of the property had no containment location.  The located the containment site at the brick wall so that it was no where near the green/white corner and this was called the white containment site.  This site was not that far from the red/white site these were the 2 sites closest together in terms of distance.  That added to her confusion.

[mike tesko]

Fact: The only position that could be characterized as a green/white containment location was the white containment location.

You are talking double Dutch, how can GREEN / WHITE containment, be the same as WHITE containment location, Jeapes ended up covering in firearm terms WHITE / RED side...

[mike tesko]

Fact: If Moule had been at this location and she was to the left of Moule that would mean she had to be at the green/black containment location but that faced the coal shed

According to you, she was everywhere except at the corner of WHITE / RED, where she says she had been...

[scipio_usmc]

The main bedroom window where the anshuzt rifle was later photographed by PC Bird, is also surrounded by grey brick...

There are 3 brick windows in the upper floor of the front of the house ALL clad in brick. Even if she had been talking about the front of the house that doesn't isolate the master bedroom window.

The gun was photographed against the window after it was photographed on Sheila's body. 

Jeapes replaced the men who hate been at the white containment location and the physical descriptions she provide were the white location.  Furthermore different men were at the red/white location- she objectively wasn't there.

You are wasting your time repeating the same stuff I have already demonstrated to be false.

[scipio_usmc]

No, she says FRONT DOOR, and a window to the right of that door, which she believed was the kitchen, but she was wrong because the window to the right of the front door as she viewed it whilst covering WHITE / RED sides, was / is the dining room, not the kitchen. There is no way she could have known which window on RED SIDE related to which room, she was merely speculating, nothing more, nothing less...

She incorrectly thought the door near the kitchen was the front door to the house.  You are the one speculating that she was wrong about the window being the kitchen window and instead being the dining room window. The totality of the evidence establishes beyond question she was at the white containment location looking at the kitchen not the front of the house.  The physical descriptions correspond to the white location, the men she replaced were at the white location there were DIFFERENT people at the red/white location including Moule.  See said Moule was at the position to her right and he was at the actual red/white location.

You are just spinning your wheels at this point.   

[mike tesko]

She incorrectly thought the door near the kitchen was the front door to the house.  You are the one speculating that she was wrong about the window being the kitchen window and instead being the dining room window. The totality of the evidence establishes beyond question she was at the white containment location looking at the kitchen not the front of the house.  The physical descriptions correspond to the white location, the men she replaced were at the white location there were DIFFERENT people at the red/white location including Moule.  See said Moule was at the position to her right and he was at the actual red/white location.

You are just spinning your wheels at this point.   

There is no evidence that the main kitchen light was switched on by the time Jeapes (after 7.15am) arrived at the corner location of WHITE / RED side...

[scipio_usmc]

You are talking double Dutch, how can GREEN / WHITE containment, be the same as WHITE containment location, Jeapes ended up covering in firearm terms WHITE / RED side...

2 of the 4 containment sites were not actually at corners.  The site called green/black was actually just facing the green side and was towards the middle of the green side so it was not at any corner.  It was nonetheless called the black/green containment site.  The white containment site was not exactly in the middle of the the white side but rather more to the right so closer to the corner with the front of the house but it wasn't at the corner. Since there was one at the corner of red/white if calling them all corners then it would mean the white would be called green/white.   But they just called it white- at least the officers at this site called it that.

Moule, Mildinhall and Brown were at the red/white site so clearly Jeapes was not.  The people she replaced were at the white containment site so clearly this is the site she was at. 



 

[mike tesko]

She incorrectly thought the door near the kitchen was the front door to the house.  You are the one speculating that she was wrong about the window being the kitchen window and instead being the dining room window. The totality of the evidence establishes beyond question she was at the white containment location looking at the kitchen not the front of the house.  The physical descriptions correspond to the white location, the men she replaced were at the white location there were DIFFERENT people at the red/white location including Moule.  See said Moule was at the position to her right and he was at the actual red/white location.

You are just spinning your wheels at this point.   

It never ceases to amaze me, birdbrain, why you challenge everything I am saying, but then again, thats why your a bird brain, but prey tell us all which rifle was seen at the window of your choice? Now, remember that Jeapes specifically states 'RIFLE', and not shotgun...

[scipio_usmc]

According to you, she was everywhere except at the corner of WHITE / RED, where she says she had been...

No according to me she was at the white containment site not anywhere else.

The most significant evidence that I use to establish this is:

1) the people she replaced were at the white containment site and if she replaced them that means she too was at the white containment site

2) the description she provided of being at the corner of a barn fits only 2 locations the green containment site and white containment site.  They are the only sites that were at the corner of barns.  However all the other things she describes establishes she was at white not the green site.

3) she said she could see the kitchen window and described a single upper floor window int he grey portion which only fits if she was at the white containment location

4) She described Moule as being at the containment location to her right and that means she was to his left.  The containment location to the left of Moule was the white containment site

5) she said she could see the raid team entering the building.  They entered through the kitchen door which could only be seen from the white containment site.

While I am objectively considering all the evidence you are ignoring it to pretend she was at a location that was staffed by other men and ignoring that location had 3 upper floor windows clad in gray so if she had been there we could no even tell which of the 3 windows she meant  and even ignoring that she wasn't even sure what she saw was a rifle barrel ALL so you can pretend she saw the rifle barrel in the master bedroom window which doesn't help Jeremy because there is no way she could have killed herself then moved the gun to the window that would prove for sure someone else killed her.

If your claims had actually been true then police would have no reason to deny the gun was in the window and would have used it to establish Jeremy's guilt.