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Re: Another Freudian Slip?
« Reply #615 on: October 30, 2015, 09:09:PM »

Yes Caroline. I WILL set the record straight here. As I haven't read  -ANYWHERE- that Colin said such to Sheila, nor that he confessed to saying such, I have to assume that it isn't true.

Someone on here told me but I haven't read it anywhere else.
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Re: Another Freudian Slip?
« Reply #616 on: October 30, 2015, 09:27:PM »
Someone on here told me but I haven't read it anywhere else.


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Re: Another Freudian Slip?
« Reply #617 on: October 30, 2015, 09:54:PM »
Jane your post from 2013 - can you remember where you got the info from?


Alias, if we look at the 18 weeks between her leaving St Andrews and her death at WHF, we find thad her hopes of being reconciled to her divorced husband came to nothing, her hopes of being reconciled to and forming a relationship with her biological mother came to nothing and in her mind it may have looked as if she was going to have to return to WHF permanently with two children she suspected of wanting to rape or kill her, a feeling probably exacerbated by the inbalance of meds that had not been checked on.

Dr Ferguson had said in a report that his prognosis for her future WAS NOT GOOD, in part because she would stop taking meds and fail to attend follow up appointments. It seems to me that Sheila was in a particularly bad place and the doctors prognosis was being fulfilled faster than he imagined.




I also think I read that Colin said if she had not died they may have had  something of more of a family life - so I suppose you can read what you want into that.

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Re: Another Freudian Slip?
« Reply #618 on: October 30, 2015, 09:57:PM »
Jane your post from 2013 - can you remember where you got the info from?


Alias, if we look at the 18 weeks between her leaving St Andrews and her death at WHF, we find thad her hopes of being reconciled to her divorced husband came to nothing, her hopes of being reconciled to and forming a relationship with her biological mother came to nothing and in her mind it may have looked as if she was going to have to return to WHF permanently with two children she suspected of wanting to rape or kill her, a feeling probably exacerbated by the inbalance of meds that had not been checked on.

Dr Ferguson had said in a report that his prognosis for her future WAS NOT GOOD, in part because she would stop taking meds and fail to attend follow up appointments. It seems to me that Sheila was in a particularly bad place and the doctors prognosis was being fulfilled faster than he imagined.




I also think I read that Colin said if she had not died they may have had  something of more of a family life - so I suppose you can read what you want into that.

We're not disputing that Colin mentioned after the deaths that there might have been a future reconciliation - in fact  he mentioned it in the video you posted a few weeks ago. The point we have disputing is that it was mentioned on the way to WHF.
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Re: Another Freudian Slip?
« Reply #619 on: October 31, 2015, 09:28:AM »
Jane your post from 2013 - can you remember where you got the info from?


Alias, if we look at the 18 weeks between her leaving St Andrews and her death at WHF, we find thad her hopes of being reconciled to her divorced husband came to nothing, her hopes of being reconciled to and forming a relationship with her biological mother came to nothing and in her mind it may have looked as if she was going to have to return to WHF permanently with two children she suspected of wanting to rape or kill her, a feeling probably exacerbated by the inbalance of meds that had not been checked on.

Dr Ferguson had said in a report that his prognosis for her future WAS NOT GOOD, in part because she would stop taking meds and fail to attend follow up appointments. It seems to me that Sheila was in a particularly bad place and the doctors prognosis was being fulfilled faster than he imagined.




I also think I read that Colin said if she had not died they may have had  something of more of a family life - so I suppose you can read what you want into that.


Jan, No, I don't remember, but after two years, it's satisfying to know, that although I've "swapped sides," I don't feel any inclination to change what I said.

I wouldn't suppose that you're disputing what Dr Ferguson said of her so I think you are -possibly?- questioning my assessment of her. By way of -hopeful- explanation, I neither pulled it out of the ether nor used a ouija board. It was formed by a mix of her background story and her behaviours at the time -the latter being conveyed by what Colin said-  her silence during the journey to WHF speaking far more eloquently than her words may have. I didn't need to be a super sleuth to form an opinion of what the silence was about. There aren't SO many reasons for silence and once the non starters -sore throat/tiredness- were eliminated, I was left with what she was feeling. Joy, contentment and serenity weren't top of the list. Could she have been feeling so angry that had she opened her mouth she'd have exploded. I don't believe so. I thought THEN and believe NOW that she was experiencing utter hopelessness, was deeply depressed. In the short term, I feel she may have thought there was little to look forward to. In the long term, I'm convinced she felt there was nothing to look forward too.

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Re: Another Freudian Slip?
« Reply #620 on: October 31, 2015, 05:04:PM »

Jan, No, I don't remember, but after two years, it's satisfying to know, that although I've "swapped sides," I don't feel any inclination to change what I said.

I wouldn't suppose that you're disputing what Dr Ferguson said of her so I think you are -possibly?- questioning my assessment of her. By way of -hopeful- explanation, I neither pulled it out of the ether nor used a ouija board. It was formed by a mix of her background story and her behaviours at the time -the latter being conveyed by what Colin said-  her silence during the journey to WHF speaking far more eloquently than her words may have. I didn't need to be a super sleuth to form an opinion of what the silence was about. There aren't SO many reasons for silence and once the non starters -sore throat/tiredness- were eliminated, I was left with what she was feeling. Joy, contentment and serenity weren't top of the list. Could she have been feeling so angry that had she opened her mouth she'd have exploded. I don't believe so. I thought THEN and believe NOW that she was experiencing utter hopelessness, was deeply depressed. In the short term, I feel she may have thought there was little to look forward to. In the long term, I'm convinced she felt there was nothing to look forward too.
She didn't seem to be making plans for the future yet I feel that she was her own harshest critic. She admonished herself for the abnormal thoughts running through her head as regards the boys and knew that it was her own behaviour which had driven Colin away. The irony is that June was reacting to this by planning to secure her a quarterly allowance,something which Jeremy may or may not have uncovered.

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Re: Another Freudian Slip?
« Reply #621 on: October 31, 2015, 05:15:PM »
She didn't seem to be making plans for the future yet I feel that she was her own harshest critic. She admonished herself for the abnormal thoughts running through her head as regards the boys and knew that it was her own behaviour which had driven Colin away. The irony is that June was reacting to this by planning to secure her a quarterly allowance,something which Jeremy may or may not have uncovered.

It's not a difficult thing to if one feels a complete failure and Sheila hadn't exactly been encouraged to see herself as being otherwise in failing both her mother and God. She appeared to have been locked into a cycle in which she was wholly dependent on the person she felt most put down by and may have been better lively quite apart from. I'm not saying there was fault, just that, like for many, it's the way it was.

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Re: Another Freudian Slip?
« Reply #622 on: February 17, 2016, 04:51:PM »
From his latest blog:

"However I do have a point and it’s maybe a little self-focused"

Another damning statement from JB! I've seen this style of writing before. By using the word 'little' imo he's attempting to play down just how self focused he truly is....

Is knows he's self focused. He's always been self focused. He is a psychopath unable to feel anything towards others.
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Re: Another Freudian Slip?
« Reply #623 on: February 17, 2016, 06:56:PM »
From his latest blog:

"However I do have a point and it’s maybe a little self-focused"

Another damning statement from JB! I've seen this style of writing before. By using the word 'little' imo he's attempting to play down just how self focused he truly is....

Is knows he's self focused. He's always been self focused. He is a psychopath unable to feel anything towards others.

The word 'maybe' is also quite telling.
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Re: Another Freudian Slip?
« Reply #624 on: February 17, 2016, 08:14:PM »
The word 'maybe' is also quite telling.

I get the sense he writes the way he does on purpose.... As though he's grinning to himself as he's putting pen to paper...
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Re: Another Freudian Slip?
« Reply #625 on: February 17, 2016, 08:56:PM »
I get the sense he writes the way he does on purpose.... As though he's grinning to himself as he's putting pen to paper...

Yeah I get that too.
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Re: Another Freudian Slip?
« Reply #626 on: February 18, 2016, 07:56:PM »
Yeah I get that too.

Well he did say tell the truth where possible, even if you have to read between the lines to see what he is saying and how coy he is.

It's a game.