Another Freudian Slip?

[Adam]

Adam I should I am only at page 4 but cannot tear myself away from you and your posts

When I got the book I read it all quickly.

[maggie]

It was mysteriously deleted.

Strange that everyone posts about each other. Then when I post a fact based non abusive post, it gets deleted.

What have you lost Adam?  Don't think anyone has removed your post.

[Adam]

Sorry it hasn't but is in another thread.

[susan]

When I got the book I read it all quickly.

Adam did you enjoy the book I have given up on Claire Powells it is quite dreadful

[Steve_uk]

This is a perfect example of how you don't go to the primary evidence.  There is nothing in Eaton's statements about such.  In the past you admitted you got this claim from a web blog.

All Boutflour noted to COLP was that the grapevine was in full effect so he stopped telling people things.  Boutflour was mad that Howie spread it around and especially mad because Howie later accused him of setting Jeremy up.  The police didn't tell him to stop spreading information he stopped spreading it because instead of people keeping his words in confidence they gossiped. 

By the way Boutflour's notes indicate towards the end of August he was told by police about human blood having been found on/in the moderator.  Before this he had no idea if it was human or not.   

You make it sound as if Boutflour's notes were gospel truth,when he could hardly be called a disinterested party. There is a suspicion in my mind that Boutflour was the one who planted the silencer in the gun cupboard in the first place for his son to find. It was the turning point of the case at a stage when the relatives were desperate to be taken seriously by DCI Taff Jones,who had already dismissed Julie's evidence. Of course this does not necessarily in itself mean that Jeremy is innocent,just that there may well have been underhand dealings to secure the conviction.

[scipio_usmc]

You make it sound as if Boutflour's notes were gospel truth,when he could hardly be called a disinterested party. There is a suspicion in my mind that Boutflour was the one who planted the silencer in the gun cupboard in the first place for his son to find. It was the turning point of the case at a stage when the relatives were desperate to be taken seriously by DCI Taff Jones,who had already dismissed Julie's evidence. Of course this does not necessarily in itself mean that Jeremy is innocent,just that there may well have been underhand dealings to secure the conviction.

He had no reason to lie about the Howie incident.  This is far different from what Lookout claimed about it.  It turns out her source was a Bamber propaganda site not AE's COLP statement.
 
As for your suspicion he planted it for his son to find- planted it from where?  Where did he find it and how did he get the blood inside? How did he get the blood out of the rifle so they would think it was drawback from the  fatal wound.  How did he know she suffered a contact wound that would result in drawback?

[lookout]

He had no reason to lie about the Howie incident.  This is far different from what Lookout claimed about it.  It turns out her source was a Bamber propaganda site not AE's COLP statement.
 
As for your suspicion he planted it for his son to find- planted it from where?  Where did he find it and how did he get the blood inside? How did he get the blood out of the rifle so they would think it was drawback from the  fatal wound.  How did he know she suffered a contact wound that would result in drawback?

Everything's propaganda to you when you disagree with it. There's a name for people like you.

[Jane]

You make it sound as if Boutflour's notes were gospel truth,when he could hardly be called a disinterested party. There is a suspicion in my mind that Boutflour was the one who planted the silencer in the gun cupboard in the first place for his son to find. It was the turning point of the case at a stage when the relatives were desperate to be taken seriously by DCI Taff Jones,who had already dismissed Julie's evidence. Of course this does not necessarily in itself mean that Jeremy is innocent,just that there may well have been underhand dealings to secure the conviction.

We do know that RWB both expected -DEMANDED- total obedience from his adult children. I suspect  it had greater effect on David than Ann. As you say, it doesn't make Jeremy innocent and I wouldn't rule out underhand dealings.

[scipio_usmc]

Everything's propaganda to you when you disagree with it. There's a name for people like you.

No propaganda to me are claims that people with an agenda make and try to support by twisting because they know they have nothing legitimate to raise to support the claims. 

[guest154]

Everything's propaganda to you when you disagree with it. There's a name for people like you.

I mean this in a completely non confrontational way, but do you now accept that AE did not make the comment you attributed to her in her COLP statement?

[lookout]

I mean this in a completely non confrontational way, but do you now accept that AE did not make the comment you attributed to her in her COLP statement?

No--------because nothing surprises me where AE is concerned.

[scipio_usmc]

No--------because nothing surprises me where AE is concerned.

What she said was that Jones told the family not to tell anyone about the paint.  Jones confirmed this in his COLP statement.  This was misrepresented as him saying not to tell anyone about the blood and then further twisted into Jones balling them ou for telling Howie though Howie was told before he went there to inspect the paint.

[Caroline]

No--------because nothing surprises me where AE is concerned.

Oh dear - for goodness sake Lookout - just admit when you're wrong! People will have more respect.

[lookout]

Oh dear - for goodness sake Lookout - just admit when you're wrong! People will have more respect.

When you read about the underhanded way in which the investigation had been conducted,i.e. shoes taken from the bedroom along with the accompanying phrase " you didn't see those ",doesn't exactly give you confidence in anything else that went on,and because AE was the curious one in all of this,why hadn't she questioned the said remark ? It amounts to mistrust with most of them involved with that case. They all made sure that what they had fitted their own agenda.

[nugnug]

Oh dear - for goodness sake Lookout - just admit when you're wrong! People will have more respect.

why should she admit just becuse somebodys posted a qaute on white background that could of come from anywhere.