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Re: Another Freudian Slip?
« Reply #30 on: April 06, 2015, 10:54:AM »
I was under the impression that rather than move bodies -unless it was to photograph something specific- they moved themselves round the body. SO much easier than moving dead weight, I imagine.

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Re: Another Freudian Slip?
« Reply #31 on: April 06, 2015, 11:02:AM »
depends were the body was it might of been at an angle theat made it hard or impossible to photograph properly.

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Re: Another Freudian Slip?
« Reply #32 on: April 06, 2015, 11:20:AM »
i think bodys are often moved so they can be photographed this is the only case were appears to have been moved.

of course there not going to tell anyone theyve done it.

No they aren't, the whole point of the photographs is to get a representation of the crime scene and it was left. The police moved Sheila's hand and only her hand. Of course people can pretend that the whole body was moved but this won't lead to a free Jeremy.
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Re: Another Freudian Slip?
« Reply #33 on: April 06, 2015, 11:37:AM »
I was under the impression that rather than move bodies -unless it was to photograph something specific- they moved themselves round the body. SO much easier than moving dead weight, I imagine.

And destroying the crime scene thus hindering the investigation.
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Re: Another Freudian Slip?
« Reply #34 on: April 06, 2015, 01:48:PM »
The police said years ago they moved the bodies slightly. This must have been done after the photographer arrived as the pictures are slightly different.

This does not incriminate Sheila or Jeremy.

It also does not highlight any deliberate framing attempt by the police. If what they did was gross misconduct for 1985, then Jeremy would be released on a technicality. He hasn't.

« Last Edit: April 06, 2015, 01:52:PM by Adam »
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Re: Another Freudian Slip?
« Reply #35 on: April 06, 2015, 02:11:PM »
The police said years ago they moved the bodies slightly. This must have been done after the photographer arrived as the pictures are slightly different.

This does not incriminate Sheila or Jeremy.

It also does not highlight any deliberate framing attempt by the police. If what they did was gross misconduct for 1985, then Jeremy would be released on a technicality. He hasn't.

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Re: Another Freudian Slip?
« Reply #36 on: April 06, 2015, 02:13:PM »
Readers post on the previous page shows two slightly different pictures.
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Re: Another Freudian Slip?
« Reply #37 on: April 06, 2015, 02:17:PM »
Readers post on the previous page shows two slightly different pictures.



Caused by photographer moving around the body to take pictures from different angles THUS creating different perspectives. Same thing as professional photographers do at weddings really except that they can ask their subjects to move so they don't have to.

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Re: Another Freudian Slip?
« Reply #38 on: April 06, 2015, 02:26:PM »
Readers post on the previous page shows two slightly different pictures.

No it doesn't, it shows the same subject from a different angle and if you knew anything about the case, you would know the police said they DIDN'T move the body, only her hand to show the blood stain on her nightdress.
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Re: Another Freudian Slip?
« Reply #39 on: April 06, 2015, 02:31:PM »
No it doesn't, it shows the same subject from a different angle and if you knew anything about the case, you would know the police said they DIDN'T move the body, only her hand to show the blood stain on her nightdress.

If you had read up on the case properly, you wouldn't have fought so hard for years protesting Jeremy's innocence. Just because he sent you nice letters.

So the police moved Sheila's arm. After the photographer arrived. How does this matter to anyone ?
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Re: Another Freudian Slip?
« Reply #40 on: April 06, 2015, 02:38:PM »
I've added yellow and blue lines to the image posted by Caroline. As you can see, the bloodspots on the carpet are in the same position in relation to these lines, but Sheila's legs are quite differently positioned in relation to them. The differences are far too great to be entirely accounted for by a difference in camera position. This shows that Sheila's legs have moved several inches inbetween the times when the photographs were taken. Who moved her legs and why?
  The position of Sheila's hand is also different and has clearly been moved. This is not explainable by different angles. The angle of bend at the elbow is noticeably different, as is the position of Sheila's hand in relation to the trigger.
   Sheila's body has clearly been moved/interfered with between the times these two photographs were taken.

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Re: Another Freudian Slip?
« Reply #41 on: April 06, 2015, 02:40:PM »
  The position of Sheila's hand is also different and has clearly been moved. This is not explainable by different angles. The angle of bend at the elbow is noticeably different, as is the position of Sheila's hand in relation to the trigger.
   Sheila's body has clearly been moved/interfered with between the times these two photographs were taken.

Her HAND was moved no one (not even the police) are denying that - her WHOLE body was not!
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Re: Another Freudian Slip?
« Reply #42 on: April 06, 2015, 02:42:PM »
  The position of Sheila's hand is also different and has clearly been moved. This is not explainable by different angles. The angle of bend at the elbow is noticeably different, as is the position of Sheila's hand in relation to the trigger.
   Sheila's body has clearly been moved/interfered with between the times these two photographs were taken.

Why does this matter ?

If correct and not disputed it did not effect the trial or appeals. So won't effect anything in the future.
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Re: Another Freudian Slip?
« Reply #43 on: April 06, 2015, 02:48:PM »
Why does this matter ?

If correct and not disputed it did not effect the trial or appeals. So won't effect anything in the future.

It matters Adam because the point is being made as a distraction. Neither Gringo, Reader or Jon, have given any consideration to the original question which was why would Jeremy imagine that Sheila might be trying to lure him to WHF to 'shoot him too' if at the point of the alleged call, he didn't know that anyone had been shot?
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Re: Another Freudian Slip?
« Reply #44 on: April 06, 2015, 02:49:PM »
Mike says he has a picture of Sheila on the bed. Unfortunately he is not able to publish it.

The police or photographer, or both,  must have then agreed to move Sheila's body onto the floor. Then move her arm after the first floor picture.

Quite why they would do this I do not know.
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