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Offline Caroline

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Re: Another Freudian Slip?
« Reply #15 on: April 06, 2015, 02:32:AM »
He is supposed to have said that 1 to 2 days after the fact, so looking back in hindsight he said if I had gone over I would have been shot...?????

No, he said it the day after while being questioned by police and he gave it as his reason for not going to WHF as his dad had (allegedly) requested.
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Re: Another Freudian Slip?
« Reply #16 on: April 06, 2015, 02:41:AM »
Another thing, could Jeremy have used the socks as gloves?
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Re: Another Freudian Slip?
« Reply #17 on: April 06, 2015, 02:42:AM »
No, he said it the day after while being questioned by police and he gave it as his reason for not going to WHF as his dad had (allegedly) requested.

The context is simple he was trying to make up excuses for why he didn't try to go help he provided this in combination with the lie that he called police right away.   At trial his excuse was that at first he didn't realize it was an emergency but after thinking about it realized it so then called police.  Of course this conflicted with his initial claims to police that he tried to call back got a busy signal then called police right away. He realized saying he didn't go because he was scared it was a set up wasn't the best argument to make, especially since he didn't call 999 and took a while to call police at all.  He would have been be shredded had he made this claim during his interrogation or on the witness stand so didn't.

 

 
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Re: Another Freudian Slip?
« Reply #18 on: April 06, 2015, 03:09:AM »
Another thing, could Jeremy have used the socks as gloves?
Ingenious Caroline,but why not just throw them on the Aga?

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Re: Another Freudian Slip?
« Reply #19 on: April 06, 2015, 03:30:AM »
Ingenious Caroline,but why not just throw them on the Aga?

His goal was to frame Sheila so logically he would dump the by her if they were able to implicate the killer.  They don't have spatter though on them or smears they just have passive blood drops so it is unlikely.  Plus it would amount to shooting with a mitten which is a hassle gloves are substantially better.
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Re: Another Freudian Slip?
« Reply #20 on: April 06, 2015, 05:10:AM »
I've added yellow and blue lines to the image posted by Caroline. As you can see, the bloodspots on the carpet are in the same position in relation to these lines, but Sheila's legs are quite differently positioned in relation to them. The differences are far too great to be entirely accounted for by a difference in camera position. This shows that Sheila's legs have moved several inches inbetween the times when the photographs were taken. Who moved her legs and why?

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Re: Another Freudian Slip?
« Reply #21 on: April 06, 2015, 07:57:AM »
I've added yellow and blue lines to the image posted by Caroline. As you can see, the bloodspots on the carpet are in the same position in relation to these lines, but Sheila's legs are quite differently positioned in relation to them. The differences are far too great to be entirely accounted for by a difference in camera position. This shows that Sheila's legs have moved several inches inbetween the times when the photographs were taken. Who moved her legs and why?

The second picture is a slightly different angle - nothing has moved at all. But thats not what the thread is about. feel free to start your own 'conspiracy' thread though.
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Re: Another Freudian Slip?
« Reply #22 on: April 06, 2015, 08:11:AM »
One can tell from the shadows that the camera positions aren't quite the same, and the upper photograph is about 10% magnified in comparison to the lower one, but those differences wouldn't account for the apparent different position of Sheila's legs.

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Re: Another Freudian Slip?
« Reply #23 on: April 06, 2015, 09:12:AM »
One can tell from the shadows that the camera positions aren't quite the same, and the upper photograph is about 10% magnified in comparison to the lower one, but those differences wouldn't account for the apparent different position of Sheila's legs.

I'm not getting into the whole 'body moved conspiracy' theory - because it makes no sense. However, it is crystal clear that the photographer has moved around the body of Sheila to take the second shot - this is evidenced by the bible. You can see the volume of pages in the first shot, in the second, the angle has changed enough so that the volume is no longer visible. The change is position is responsible for  the 'illusion' that the body has shifted position.
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Re: Another Freudian Slip?
« Reply #24 on: April 06, 2015, 09:18:AM »
Maybe it was standard practice for crime scene photographers to move bodies slightly in the 80's. To get the best pictures. I would be surprised if that happens now.

I don't see how this incriminates Sheila or Jeremy.
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Re: Another Freudian Slip?
« Reply #25 on: April 06, 2015, 09:58:AM »
i think you might be right adam i think it may of been.

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Re: Another Freudian Slip?
« Reply #26 on: April 06, 2015, 10:20:AM »
i think you might be right adam i think it may of been.

Huh?
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Re: Another Freudian Slip?
« Reply #27 on: April 06, 2015, 10:38:AM »
i think bodys are often moved so they can be photographed this is the only case were appears to have been moved.

of course there not going to tell anyone theyve done it.

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Re: Another Freudian Slip?
« Reply #28 on: April 06, 2015, 10:47:AM »
I thought the police said themselves the body of Sheila was moved slightly.

This has been jumped on by supporters, saying the police took photos of themselves & the bodies in sexual positions. As well as creating banners & urinating outside. Of which no evidence has been provided.

The other claim is Sheila was moved from the bed to the floor by the police. Not sure why they would do this. Again no evidence has been provided. Mike says he has a picture of Sheila on the bed, unfortunately he was not able to post it on here.
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Re: Another Freudian Slip?
« Reply #29 on: April 06, 2015, 10:50:AM »
depends on what they mean by slightly there not going to tell anyone where they moved it from.