Peter Eatons fingerprints found on bloodstained ammunition box found in cupboard

[mike tesko]

It is documented in police records, namely a PROPERTY REGISTER that DS Jones took possession of four exhibits in connection with the whf investigation:-

SBJ\4
SBJ\3
SBJ\2
SBJ\1

There are no prizes for guessing what the item SBJ\1 was \  is?

[scipio_usmc]

In the Andrew Hunter book draft he claims the blood was found in the wrong silencer(page 21): http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=2441.0

His book is contradictory. At first he admits that the moderator was given no less than 3 different exhibit prefixes but then changes course and suggests each prefix is a different moderator and that the 3 could have been mixed up.  He offers no evidence to establish each was referring to a different moderator, he just asserts such without a shred of evidence.  The CCRC and COA reject the claim that the 3 references are to different moderators the COLP investigation fully resolved this allegation and established why the prefix was changed.  It is not the only item that had its prefix changed the scope and some of the ammo also featured the same progression changes ultimately ending up DRB 2 and 3.  He seems to ignore the evidence and just make up accusations that were already refuted years earlier.

His book is riddled with so many errors including the notion that superglue fuming harms blood grouping tests, it doesn't, nor does it inhibit DNA testing of blood.  I especially like his claim some "gun enthusiests" found muzzle marks from the moderator on Sheila's non-fatal wound but missing from her fatal wound so that means the moderator was removed and put away before the second shot was fired.  The first shot wasn't a contact wound it could not have left a muzzle imprint nor did anyone who examined Sheila find a muzzle imprint on either wound.  She would not only have no reason to remove the moderator after the first shot if she could reach he trigger as he claims with the moderator on the weapon but if inclined to do so would have no reason to go put it away and would have left a blood trail as she did so.  Worse the second shot was fired within seconds of the first not minutes so she didn't have enough time to go put it away.  He takes a claim (that the moderator was used to deliver the non-fatal shot) which if true would be very damning to the defense but ignores such and pretends it helps the defense. His bias could not be anymore clear.

If I were biased like him I would be using such supposed evidence as evidence of Jeremy's guilt because no way did Sheila remove the moderator after the first shot and go put it away in the closet.  Since I am objective I reject the notion of there being a muzzle mark from the moderator on her neck around the non-fatal wound.  No such mark was seen in photos by any qualified experts, the photos I have seen though being not of great quality show nothing that could reasonably be a muzzle imprint so it is not credible they could see one, it was a non-contact wound so would not have a muzzle imprint and those who actually inspected her body found no evidence of any muzzle imprint.

Not only did Hunter fail to use objective logic to make sure his evidence was solid and thus accept faulty claims worse he then distorted the implications of any and all information (faulty or not) based on his agenda. 

[scipio_usmc]

It is documented in police records, namely a PROPERTY REGISTER that DS Jones took possession of four exhibits in connection with the whf investigation:-

SBJ\4
SBJ\3
SBJ\2
SBJ\1

There are no prizes for guessing what the item SBJ\1 was \  is?

SBJ/1 was the initial prefix given to the moderator it was changed to DB/1 and ultimately ended up DRB/1.  After they collected the other evidence they decided to change all the prefixes of the items discovered by Boutflour at WHF on August 10, 1985 to match the initials of the finder because that is proper protocol.  After discovering that Boutflour found them they altered the moderator, scope and ammunition to DB/1, DB/2, DB/3 and DB/4. Upon finding out David Bird was using such prefix they added Boutflour's middle initial and ended with DRB 1-4.  This was all fully explored and sorted out during the COLP Investigation. 

There is no mystery about the prefix revisions.



 

[mike tesko]

The sound moderator (SBJ\1) taken from the scene by DS Jones on 7th August 1985, which was fingerprinted by DS Davidson on the 9th August, and which DCI Jones, and DS Jones spoke to Jeremy about on that very same day, could not have been the same moderator as the one found in the gun cupboard by David Boutflour on 10th August 1985. The moderator handed to DS Jones by Peter Eaton on the 12th August 1985, was not the same moderator recovered earlier from the scene by David Boutflour. The moderator (unassigned) given to DI Cook by DS Jones on 13th August 1985, which Cook took to the lab' that very same day for Glynis Howard to examine, and which Ron Cook labelled, SJ\1 on that occasion, was not the same moderator found at the scene by David Boutflour three days earlier. The moderator (SJ\1 which Cook fingerprinted by oblique light test on 15th August, and by superglue treatment on the 23rd August 1985, was not the moderator found at the scene by David Boutflour. The moderator (SJ\1) dismantled and rebuilt by Cook on the 29th August, was not the moderator found by David Boutfkour earlier. The moderator (DB\1) sent to the lab' by Essex police on the 30th August 1985, was not the moderator found at the scene by David Boutflour. The moderator (DRB\1) handed to DC Oakly by Ann Eaton on the 11th September 1985, was the very same moderator found at the scene on the 10th August, earlier.The moderator (DB\1) inside which the crucial flake of Sheila Caffells blood group activity was discovered at the lab' on the 12th September 1985, was not the same moderator found by David Boutflour on the 10th August, which was not handed over to DC Oakley by Ann Eaton until the day before. The moderator (DB\1) inside which the key blood group evidence was discovered on the 12th September, was found inside the moderator (DB\1) already present at the lab' from 30th August, onward. DS Davidson, and DS Eastwood fingerprinted a moderator (DRB\1) which was still in police possession on the 14th September 1985, this was a separate moderator to the one (DB\1) police had already sent to the lab' on the 30th August 1985. On the 20th September 1985, we know at what stage additional scratch marks were made on the red painted aga surround. Police sent moderator (DRB\1) to the lab' to be checked for the presence of blood and fibers, and therefore could not have been, or be the same moderator (DB\1) previously sent to the lab' on the 30th August, inside which the key blood group evidence in the form of the small flake of dried blood had already been discovered (12th September), and already analysed (between 12th and the 19th September 1985), because the moderator (DRB\1) found at the scene by David Boutflour on 10th August 1985, was not handed over to Essex police by Ann Eaton until the 11th September 1985, was not fingerprinted by DS Davidson and DS Eastwood, until 14th September, and was not sent by police to the lab' until 20th September, and not physically examined at all once it had eventually been received at the lab' until the 25th September 1985, by which stage particles of red paint matching the red paint of the aga surround in the main kitchen at the scene, were found to be present in the knurl of moderator DRB\1. Now, we all know at what stage the additional scratch marks first appeared on the red painted surround, so that part is easily accounted for. But the most overwhelming piece of evidence is that the key blood evidence cannot have been found inside the moderator (DRB\1) found at the scene by David Boutflour on the 10th August 1985, because it was not handed over to the police by Ann Eaton until the 11th September 1985, and in any event it (DRB\1) arrived at the lab' too late for the key flake of blood to have been found inside it. The mystery of the blood contaminated (DB\1), and the paint contaminated (DRB\1) moderators has finally, well and truly been exposed as nothing but falsified evidence which was deliberately introduced to help convict Jeremy Bamberg for these murders...

All the dated events, and exhibit references, mentioned here are genuine, not made up by me, all recorded in the police and lab' files...

[scipio_usmc]

The sound moderator (SBJ\1) taken from the scene by DS Jones on 7th August 1985, which was fingerprinted by DS Davidson on the 9th August, and which DCI Jones, and DS Jones spoke to Jeremy about on that very same day, could not have been the same moderator as the one found in the gun cupboard by David Boutflour on 10th August 1985. The moderator handed to DS Jones by Peter Eaton on the 12th August 1985, was not the same moderator recovered earlier from the scene by David Boutflour. The moderator (unassigned) given to DI Cook by DS Jones on 13th August 1985, which Cook took to the lab' that very same day for Glynis Howard to examine, and which Ron Cook labelled, SJ\1 on that occasion, was not the same moderator found at the scene by David Boutflour three days earlier. The moderator (SJ\1 which Cook fingerprinted by oblique light test on 15th August, and by superglue treatment on the 23rd August 1985, was not the moderator found at the scene by David Boutflour. The moderator (SJ\1) dismantled and rebuilt by Cook on the 29th August, was not the moderator found by David Boutfkour earlier. The moderator (DB\1) sent to the lab'by Essex police on the 30th August 1985, was not the moderator found at the scene by David Boutflour. The moderator (DRB\1) handed to DC Oakly by Ann Eaton on the 11th September 1985, was the very same moderator found at the scene on the 10th August, earlier.The moderator (DB\1) inside which the crucial flake of Sheila Caffells blood group activity was discovered at the lab' on the 12th September 1985, was not the same moderator found by David Boutflour on the 10th August, which was not handed over to DC Oakley by Ann Eaton until the day before. The moderator (DB\1) inside which the key blood group evidence was discovered on the 12th September, was found inside the moderator (DB\1) already present at the lab' from 30th August, onward. DS Davidson, and DS Eastwood fingerprinted a moderator (DRB\1) which was still in police possession on the 14th September 1985, this was a separate moderator to the one (DB\1) police had already sent to the lab' on the 30th August 1985. On the 20th September 1985ll know at what stage additional scratch marks were made on the red pa, police sent moderator (DRB\1) to the lab' to be checked for the presence of blood and fibers, and therefore could not have been, or be the same moderator (DB\1) previously sent to the lab' on the 30th August, inside which the key blood group evidence in the form of the small flake of dried blood had already been discovered (12th September), and already analysed (between 12th and the 19th September 1985), because the moderator (DRB\1) found at the scene by David Boutflour on 10th August 1985, was not handed over to Essex police by Ann Eaton until the 11th September 1985, was not fingerprinted by DS Davidson and DS Eastwood, until 14th September, and was not sent by police to the lab' until 20th September, and not physically examined at all once it had eventually been received at the lab' until the 25th September 1985, by which stage particles of red paint matching the red paint of the aga surround in the main kitchen at the scene, were found to be present in the knurl of moderator DRB\1. Now, we all know at what stage the additional scratch marks first appeared on the red painted surround, so that part is easily accounted for. But the most overwhelming piece of evidence is that the key blood evidence cannot have been found inside the moderator (DRB\1) found at the scene by David Boutflour on the 10th August 1985, because it was not handed over to the police by Ann Eaton until the 11th September 1985, and in any event it (DRB\1) arrived at the lab' too late for the key flake of blood to have been found inside it. The mystery of the blood contaminated (DB\1), and the paint contaminated (DRB\1) moderators has finally, well and truly been exposed as nothing but falsified evidence which was deliberately introduced to help convict Jeremy Bamberg for these murders...

All the dated events, and exhibit references, mentioned here are genuine, not made up by me, all recorded in the police and lab' files...

No you are simply misrepresenting.  You have failed to produce any documentation to establish Jones took a moderator from the site on the day of the murders that was taken for fingerprinting on August 9.  You simply allege this you provide no evidence and worse you keep changing your mind of what exhibit number this supposed moderator had.  You sometimes allege it was SBJ/1 while other times you claim it was SJ/1 and in fact swore you have documentation proving it was SJ/1 jsu tliek you now swear you have documentation proving it was SBJ/1.

The actual documents establish SBJ/1 was given to the mdoerator collected from the family on August 12.  cook's COLP statement explains how he labeled it the same day it was given to him by Jones and how he submitted it to the lab the same day under SBJ/1.  You are spinning your wheels for nothing, this argument flopped decades ago is already over and done with. 

[mike tesko]

Blood evidence found in one moderator (DB\1), paint found on the other moderator (DRB\1),  the dates when each of these two moderators were sent to the lab' by police, cannot be overcome, the former (DB\1) sent to the lab' on the 30th August 1985, the latter one (DRB\1) not sent to the lab' until the 20th September 1985 - those facts will stand the test of time, and no-one or anybody can alter the truth about these two completely separate moderators being sent by Essex police to the lab' 21 days a part from one another. Now, that's what I call compelling evidence...

[mike tesko]

I have not misrepresented anything, the police are responsible for altering the exhibit references as part of the plan to try and merge these completely separate moderators together as being one and the same.There was no need for police or anybody to alter any exhibit references of any exhibit. Each exhibit was found, recovered, or given to police in its own unique circumstances, at a particular location, on a specific date, and unique time.  Police claiming they had to alter the exhibit references of items because they supposedly clashed with other exhibit references of items found or whatever by different people, is an argument in the circumstances of this case, that quite frankly does not hold water...

[mike tesko]

I have not misrepresented anything, the police are responsible for altering the exhibit references as part of the plan to try and merge these completely separate moderators together as being one and the same.There was no need for police or anybody to alter any exhibit references of any exhibit. Each exhibit was found, recovered, or given to police in its own unique circumstances, at a particular location, on a specific date, and unique time.  Police claiming they had to alter the exhibit references of items because they supposedly clashed with other exhibit references of items found or whatever by different people, is an argument in the circumstances of this case, that quite frankly does not hold water...

The sound moderator, blood, paint evidence, relied upon in this case to help to prosecute and to convict Jeremy Bamber has well and truly been shot to bits. The so called pan of truth, has now been exposed as a sive full of lies...

[mike tesko]

First Moderator sent to Lab'

13th August 1985 - (unassigned), SJ/1 (later altered to SBJ/1)...
Explanation exists for return of this moderator back into police possession

Second Moderator sent to Lab'

30th August 1985 - DB/1
Small flake of dried blood found inside this moderator
When flake analysed, it produces following blood group results
A
EAP BA
AK/1
HP 2-1
(Above blood group activity obtained between 12th to 19th September 1985)

Third Moderator sent to Lab'

20th September 1985 - DRB/1
To be checked for blood and fibers
Particles of red paint discovered ground into knurl of silencers end cap (25th September, 1985)

[scipio_usmc]

First Moderator sent to Lab'

13th August 1985 - (unassigned), SJ/1 (later altered to SBJ/1)...
Explanation exists for return of this moderator back into police possession

Second Moderator sent to Lab'

30th August 1985 - DB/1
Small flake of dried blood found inside this moderator
When flake analysed, it produces following blood group results
A
EAP BA
AK/1
HP 2-1
(Above blood group activity obtained between 12th to 19th September 1985)

Third Moderator sent to Lab'

20th September 1985 - DRB/1

The COLP investigation determined there was 1 moderator at WHF on the day of the murder and that moderator was assigned prefix SBJ/1 which was changed to DB/1 and ultimately DRB/1.  No one had any evidence to refute these COLP findings.  Your allegations are a waste of time.

[mike tesko]

You are wrong, COLP produced two Reports about their findings into Jeremy Bambers Complaints, one report to be disclosed to Jeremy (he being the Complainant), and the official Report, sent to the IPCC. Only mention of one sound moderator mentioned in the former Report, but two separate moderators mentioned in the latter report. The reason why the existence of the second moderator was not disclosed in the Report made available to Jeremy, was that Jeremy had not complained that different moderators had been merged together and presented as the same one, he had wrongly complained that PC David Bird had originally found that moderator, because of the DB/1 exhibit reference to it in police documents which he had in his possession at the time he lodged his complaint - PC David Bird being a member of SOC at the scene on the morning of the shootings. Jeremy also knew about the other exhibit reference, SBJ/1, attributed to the moderator, but he discounted that on the basis that DS Jones was not a SOCO at the time of the investigation. Little did Jeremy know, that after attending his cottage at Head Street, Goldhanger, along with DC Clark, that DS Jones had returned to the scene and taken possession if a sound moderator (which subsequently became SBJ/1. However, in the IPCC Report, COLP confirm the existence of the two separate moderators at the scene on the morning of the shootings. One moderator (SBJ/1) removed from the scene on 7th August 1985, by DS Jones himself, and a second one (DRB/1) removed from the scene by David Boutflour on the 10th August 1985...

One (SBJ/1) of these moderators belonging to Anthony Pargeters .22 rifle, the other (DRB/1) belonging to Ralph Bambers .22  rifle. I don't need to make anything up, because its all true...

[mike tesko]

Why do you think there is no official mention about Ann Eaton handing over the moderator (DRB/1) to DC Oakley, on the 11th September 1985?

Why no witness statements made by DS Davidson and DS Eastwood fingerprinting that (DRB/1) moderator on the 14th September 1975?

Why is there no official account of the identity of the person who physically took moderator (DRB/1) to the lab' on the 20th September 1985?

Think...

[mike tesko]

COLP also obtained copies of all police store room registers, and copies of all entries relating to all items of evidential value connected with or to the case, and in particular, entries made in a police register known as, THE PROPERTY OTHER THAN FOUND BOOK...

As I understand it, this was Essex police's pitfall. Because, details of DS Jones recovery of a sound moderator are documented in TPOTFB, in an entry dated the 7th August 1985, now why do you think that is?

Similarly, a record exists confirming in TPOTFB, dated the 11th September 1985, that Annie Eaton handed a sound moderator to DC Oakley...

So, if the police had a moderator from as long ago as the 7th August 1985, or say the 12th August 1985, what was Annie and the gang doing in possession of a moderator until the 11th September 1985, if the argument is going to continue to be that there was only one sound moderator, but if that be true, the police documents show the existence of two separate ones, where one of these is already at the lab' , whilst Annie and the gang still have possession of the other one...

[scipio_usmc]

Why do you think there is no official mention about Ann Eaton handing over the moderator (DRB/1) to DC Oakley, on the 11th September 1985



Why no witness statements made by DS Davidson and DS Eastwood fingerprinting that (DRB/1) moderator on the 14th September 1975?



Why is there no official account of the identity of the person who physically took moderator (DRB/1) to the lab' on the 20th September 1985?

Think...

Because you made the claims up.  Things that you say happened that there is no documentation to establish happened and no testimony to establish happened  obviously didn't happen you simply made the claims up.

[mike tesko]

The police and the relatives and the ballistics expert made it all up, and people like you believed it...