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Re: The killlers
« Reply #480 on: April 02, 2015, 08:43:PM »
I'm not surprised Colin fled.

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« Reply #481 on: April 03, 2015, 08:09:AM »
I have to agree and like I said, the claim is ludicrous!

Caroline and Scipio - You both seem to be totally ignorant as to the nature of psychotic episodes as shown by the use of 'It makes no sense... It's simply stupid... It isn't logical...' etc to describe Sheila's possible actions. People having psychotic episodes do things that are rational to THEM while to the observer they are completely irrational. In fact that is one of the prime definitions of delusion! Absurd? Yes, the actions not the claim.
My original assertion was not about the tampon but some people are too prudish to discuss such things.
Would you consider it ludicrous that someone would decide to go shopping at 3 a.m. wearing nothing but 10 pairs of boxer shorts? It does to me but to my cousin during a psychotic episode it was perfectly normal. He couldn't understand why I was trying to stop him and accused me of keeping him prisoner.
A drop of blood entering the silencer could end up on the 8 baffles by a force called GRAVITY! Don't you think a spray would result in a more even distribution?

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« Reply #482 on: April 03, 2015, 09:28:AM »
Caroline and Scipio - You both seem to be totally ignorant as to the nature of psychotic episodes as shown by the use of 'It makes no sense... It's simply stupid... It isn't logical...' etc to describe Sheila's possible actions. People having psychotic episodes do things that are rational to THEM while to the observer they are completely irrational. In fact that is one of the prime definitions of delusion! Absurd? Yes, the actions not the claim.
My original assertion was not about the tampon but some people are too prudish to discuss such things.
Would you consider it ludicrous that someone would decide to go shopping at 3 a.m. wearing nothing but 10 pairs of boxer shorts? It does to me but to my cousin during a psychotic episode it was perfectly normal. He couldn't understand why I was trying to stop him and accused me of keeping him prisoner.
A drop of blood entering the silencer could end up on the 8 baffles by a force called GRAVITY! Don't you think a spray would result in a more even distribution?



I agree - just look at the thoughts about her sons - were they logical ? I think most of us would find them hard to understand and to be honest disgusting if we did not accept her illness and we tend to forget it was documented that she felt she was a threat to her own sons. I am willing to bet that Jeremy was not even aware of her thoughts in that respect.

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« Reply #483 on: April 03, 2015, 11:17:AM »
Caroline and Scipio - You both seem to be totally ignorant as to the nature of psychotic episodes as shown by the use of 'It makes no sense... It's simply stupid... It isn't logical...' etc to describe Sheila's possible actions. People having psychotic episodes do things that are rational to THEM while to the observer they are completely irrational. In fact that is one of the prime definitions of delusion! Absurd? Yes, the actions not the claim.
My original assertion was not about the tampon but some people are too prudish to discuss such things.
Would you consider it ludicrous that someone would decide to go shopping at 3 a.m. wearing nothing but 10 pairs of boxer shorts? It does to me but to my cousin during a psychotic episode it was perfectly normal. He couldn't understand why I was trying to stop him and accused me of keeping him prisoner.
A drop of blood entering the silencer could end up on the 8 baffles by a force called GRAVITY! Don't you think a spray would result in a more even distribution?

The problem is you can't explain how Sheila committed the massacre. I gave you the chance to, but you bottled it.
'Only I know what really happened that night'.

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Re: The killlers
« Reply #484 on: April 03, 2015, 11:24:AM »
Caroline and Scipio - You both seem to be totally ignorant as to the nature of psychotic episodes as shown by the use of 'It makes no sense... It's simply stupid... It isn't logical...' etc to describe Sheila's possible actions. People having psychotic episodes do things that are rational to THEM while to the observer they are completely irrational. In fact that is one of the prime definitions of delusion! Absurd? Yes, the actions not the claim.
My original assertion was not about the tampon but some people are too prudish to discuss such things.
Would you consider it ludicrous that someone would decide to go shopping at 3 a.m. wearing nothing but 10 pairs of boxer shorts? It does to me but to my cousin during a psychotic episode it was perfectly normal. He couldn't understand why I was trying to stop him and accused me of keeping him prisoner.
A drop of blood entering the silencer could end up on the 8 baffles by a force called GRAVITY! Don't you think a spray would result in a more even distribution?






I'm with you on this,lebaleb.
Yesterday morning at 9am,I heard shouting. In the next road,my dear friend's daughter lives,like a recluse,in a big house on her own.Deserted by her family because of the daughter's mental problems,and also the danger involved,this woman had kicked off,shouting,swearing,you name it. I couldn't see her but I heard from a neighbour that she'd come out of the bathroom and was brushing her teeth as she was giving off !
The same woman,who I know of course,and saw last week,was quite lucid and presentable. This poor soul escaped being sectioned when she ran from the hospital,but she's got serious paranoia and nobody can do anything, short of breaking down her front door and dragging her out because it's her own property and nobody has the right to enter.
Her behaviour has got steadily worse,and she does show aggression towards her mother ( who is a lifelong friend ) so as a consequence,the mother doesn't go visiting.
All the shouting yesterday was towards her mother,even though she wasn't there,she seems to get this " red mist " which focusses on her mother and some of the things that were being said,was awful ( if nobody realised that the daughter was sick )
I'd heard that when it was windy a couple of days ago,she'd rang the police in the early hours ( lights are on in the house all night ) that there was an animal running around in the garden-------it was a plastic bag which had blown in,but she wasn't convinced and made the" excuse" of not going to bed,which she never does anyway.
This woman puts me in mind of Sheila because of her irrational behaviour,unpredictability and the focus on her mother.The woman is attractive,was an accountant,had a broken marriage,takes speed,is erratic,won't go to the GP,and even if she did,she wouldn't take any medication with all the other crap she takes.
I can't see the situation ever getting better as her own daughter,at 12 years of age,lives with my friend ( the child's grannie )
I do see a lot of Sheila in this woman,and swear that if the same person was armed with a gun,then God help a few of us. 

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Re: The killlers
« Reply #485 on: April 03, 2015, 11:40:AM »
Caroline and Scipio - You both seem to be totally ignorant as to the nature of psychotic episodes as shown by the use of 'It makes no sense... It's simply stupid... It isn't logical...' etc to describe Sheila's possible actions. People having psychotic episodes do things that are rational to THEM while to the observer they are completely irrational. In fact that is one of the prime definitions of delusion! Absurd? Yes, the actions not the claim.
My original assertion was not about the tampon but some people are too prudish to discuss such things.
Would you consider it ludicrous that someone would decide to go shopping at 3 a.m. wearing nothing but 10 pairs of boxer shorts? It does to me but to my cousin during a psychotic episode it was perfectly normal. He couldn't understand why I was trying to stop him and accused me of keeping him prisoner.
A drop of blood entering the silencer could end up on the 8 baffles by a force called GRAVITY! Don't you think a spray would result in a more even distribution?

well it stands to reason that irrational people do irrational things.

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Re: The killlers
« Reply #486 on: April 03, 2015, 11:47:AM »
They do nugs,and unless anyone has experienced it first-hand,they're not up for judging.

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« Reply #487 on: April 03, 2015, 11:54:AM »
Caroline and Scipio - You both seem to be totally ignorant as to the nature of psychotic episodes as shown by the use of 'It makes no sense... It's simply stupid... It isn't logical...' etc to describe Sheila's possible actions. People having psychotic episodes do things that are rational to THEM while to the observer they are completely irrational. In fact that is one of the prime definitions of delusion! Absurd? Yes, the actions not the claim.
My original assertion was not about the tampon but some people are too prudish to discuss such things.
Would you consider it ludicrous that someone would decide to go shopping at 3 a.m. wearing nothing but 10 pairs of boxer shorts? It does to me but to my cousin during a psychotic episode it was perfectly normal. He couldn't understand why I was trying to stop him and accused me of keeping him prisoner.
A drop of blood entering the silencer could end up on the 8 baffles by a force called GRAVITY! Don't you think a spray would result in a more even distribution?

It's not about being prudish - people have grasped desperately at straws to make excuses for Jeremy being innocent but this one takes the biscuit - it's in line with the suggestion that West Didn't tell Jeremy that his dad had already called the police just in case they needed to frame him for something later!!
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« Reply #488 on: April 03, 2015, 12:03:PM »
its not making excuses its considering all possibility.

thats what a discusion is supposed to be about.

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« Reply #489 on: April 03, 2015, 12:13:PM »
its not making excuses its considering all possibility.

thats what a discusion is supposed to be about.

OK, so, would you like to consider the possibility that Sheila inserted the silencer inside herself?
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« Reply #490 on: April 03, 2015, 12:17:PM »
personally i don't go for it.

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« Reply #491 on: April 03, 2015, 12:19:PM »
personally i don't go for it.

Thank god for that!  :o
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« Reply #492 on: April 03, 2015, 12:22:PM »
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>doesn't grasp at straws. Doesn't need to.

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« Reply #493 on: April 03, 2015, 12:25:PM »
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>doesn't grasp at straws. Doesn't need to.

If you say so Lookout  ;D
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Re: The killlers
« Reply #494 on: April 03, 2015, 12:32:PM »
If you say so Lookout  ;D





I do. I've followed his life,similarly to my own. It needn't necessarily be Jeremy.It could have been anyone with much the same upbringing,etc. The only difference being that we didn't live on a farm,but holidayed on one with relative's in the Isle-of-Man.