The killlers

[Adam]

The two shots issue is also closed. With a thread already created.

Sheila committing suicide by shooting herself twice with a weak rifle is not impossible. And has happened before and since.

Jeremy either knew this or used his common sense. He was going to keep to the plan he had told Julie about.

[Jan]

That is not the issue here, I don´t think you understand what I was getting at.

He certainly still does not understand what a source is.

[lookout]

I thought he told them she'd just come out of the "nut house" and might be going back(?) I feel sure he used the term "paranoid depressive".

I've never heard of either terms having been spoken by Jeremy.

[Alias]

The two shots issue is also closed. With a thread already created.

Sheila committing suicide by shooting herself twice with a weak rifle is not impossible. And has happened before and since.

Jeremy either knew this or used his common sense. He was going to keep to the plan he had told Julie about.

Not as far as I am concerned.

[Jan]

April, can you explain what you mean by which window is Irrelevant? Surely it is relevant if he can't physically fit through the window that they say he used on the night?

[Adam]

Not as far as I am concerned.

I thought Jeremy's supporters say Sheila could shoot herself twice.

[Adam]

Oh so now Jeremy can't fit through windows. Although he told the police and courts he could.

[Jane]

April, can you explain what you mean by which window is Irrelevant? Surely it is relevant if he can't physically fit through the window that they say he used on the night?

I believe the court said that it wasn't necessary to prove that he DID(climb through a window) only that he COULD and we know he could because he SAID he previously had..................and did. Something about a passport?

[Alias]

I thought Jeremy's supporters say Sheila could shoot herself twice.

That is a possibility, it does happen.
It is the absurdity in Jeremy shooting her twice , then staging it as suicide that gets to me. Further, that he "hid" the silencer with blood and paint on it after something that must have made him extremely nervous and extra cautious. Then make a phonecall , which implicated him or Sheila, no possibility that anyone else had done it.

It all makes no sense whatsoever to me.

[Adam]

I am no expert on suicides or guns. 

If someone said to me a person committed suicide by shooting themselves twice with a weak rifle, I would find it believable. 

The first shot with a weak rifle didn't kill the person. The person who wanted to commit suicide then managed to fire a second shot. 

Statistics back this up, as two shot suicides have happened. 

A three or four shot suicide is unbelievable. 

[Adam]

Jeremy had either read up about two shot suicides and knew it was possible. Or used common sense and assumed it would be believable that Sheila had shot herself twice with a weak rifle. 

Either way he was not going deviate radically from the plan he had spent a long time on, at the last minute. After having to fire a second shot. The fake random burglar or psychopath options are both non starters. 

[scipio_usmc]

That is a possibility, it does happen.
It is the absurdity in Jeremy shooting her twice , then staging it as suicide that gets to me. Further, that he "hid" the silencer with blood and paint on it after something that must have made him extremely nervous and extra cautious. Then make a phonecall , which implicated him or Sheila, no possibility that anyone else had done it.

It all makes no sense whatsoever to me.

Your claims make no sense to me, the jury the courts or a majority of people so that leaves you in the minority.

You failed to address the rebuttal to your claim which is that if he just left the house they would have known for sure he did it because no burglar would stick around to kill everyone in their sleep they would at most kill those who caught them then flee not reload in the kitchen then go back upstairs to look for more victims to kill.   It is your position that is absurd. 

Your absurd position is that he would abandon his lengthy planning of framing his sister and just pray police would not suspect him though no one except him would prosper from the executions and also that Julie is lying, the lab, police and family all got together  to lie and fake evidence in the most wide ranging conspiracy in UK history without any evidence of such a conspiracy surfacing so Jeremy can't prove it even though it happened.

Logically what is more likely Jeremy continuing with his plan to frame Sheila or the most wide ranging conspiracy in UK history?

Those who compared you to Spock were way off base...  You are guided by emotion not logic. 

[Adam]

The silencer was hidden away. There was no reason why the police would find it. Thread already created.

The phone call to the police insinuating Sheila was his best option. Rather than being first on the scene at 7.30am. Lots of threads created.

[Jane]

That is a possibility, it does happen.
It is the absurdity in Jeremy shooting her twice , then staging it as suicide that gets to me. Further, that he "hid" the silencer with blood and paint on it after something that must have made him extremely nervous and extra cautious. Then make a phonecall , which implicated him or Sheila, no possibility that anyone else had done it.

It all makes no sense whatsoever to me.

No matter what you believe, it was Jeremy who limited the culprit to being either him or Sheila.

[Jan]

I believe the court said that it wasn't necessary to prove that he DID(climb through a window) only that he COULD and we know he could because he SAID he previously had..................and did. Something about a passport?

f.  Yes I am aware of that . He said he had gone in and out of windows but never said one could be locked from the outside. That is why the courts said it did not have to be proven. Which means it never was. What I was saying is if they said one particular window was used for the exit , it would be relevant if he could not physically get out of that particular window.