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Re: The killlers
« Reply #135 on: March 28, 2015, 08:46:PM »
 Beam me up Scotty.

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« Reply #136 on: March 28, 2015, 08:47:PM »
Beam me up Scotty.



LOL....................and I did ;D ;D ;D ;D

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« Reply #137 on: March 28, 2015, 08:50:PM »
This makes even less sense - I have no idea what you are talking about!



Sorry Alias. There's a very popular series here called Star Trek. One of the characters is a half Vulcan called Mr Spock who is mostly human but can only think logically.

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Re: The killlers
« Reply #138 on: March 28, 2015, 08:57:PM »


Sorry Alias. There's a very popular series here called Star Trek. One of the characters is a half Vulcan called Mr Spock who is mostly human but can only think logically.

And where do I fit into that?

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« Reply #139 on: March 28, 2015, 09:05:PM »
Alias, you finally admit you're a supporter!  ;D

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« Reply #140 on: March 28, 2015, 09:13:PM »
Alias, you finally admit you're a supporter!  ;D

Why is that important to you?

Sometimes I think he did it, some days not. I change stance all the time, but there is nothing wrong with being a supporter - apart from being prepared to receive your share of bashing.

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« Reply #141 on: March 28, 2015, 09:15:PM »
Why is that important to you?

Sometimes I think he did it, some days not. I change stance all the time, but there is nothing wrong with being a supporter - apart from being prepared to receive your share of bashing.

No, no, nothing wrong with it, people can believe what they like. But when I called you a supporter once you weren't happy with it and said you were on the fence, I said that was strange as all your posts on both forums had been supportive to Bamber - now your position is clear though as you believe Sheila shot herself twice.

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« Reply #142 on: March 28, 2015, 09:19:PM »
And where do I fit into that?


As a logical thinker? Why, logical companion/friend for Mr Spock (NOT to be confused with DR Spock) ;D

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« Reply #143 on: March 28, 2015, 09:31:PM »
No, no, nothing wrong with it, people can believe what they like. But when I called you a supporter once you weren't happy with it and said you were on the fence, I said that was strange as all your posts on both forums had been supportive to Bamber - now your position is clear though as you believe Sheila shot herself twice.

Not all posts, but I can see that people see what they want to see. I don´t have a fixed opinion about this case, I don´t understand that anyone can, it is all so murky and mishandled from getgo.

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« Reply #144 on: March 28, 2015, 09:31:PM »
Sorry Alias. There's a very popular series here called Star Trek. One of the characters is a half Vulcan called Mr Spock who is mostly human but can only think logically.

I didn't know it was popular there.  When I was young (1980s) the original series was on TV all the time. I don't think anyone has broadcast them in the past 20 years though.

My favorite character was Spock but Kirk was the favorite of the majority.  Michael Myers from the original Halloween movie wore a Captain Kirk mask with the hair ripped out, they lacked the budget for a custom killer face.
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« Reply #145 on: March 28, 2015, 09:39:PM »
I have to say that I find it hard to believe that Jeremy, having shot Sheila twice and staged her body as a suicide thought, Oh, OK, the silencer, better take that off the rifle and "hide" it complete with blood, hair and paint on it, no one will notice!
That would be something a five-year-old would do.

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« Reply #146 on: March 28, 2015, 09:44:PM »
I didn't know it was popular there.  When I was young (1980s) the original series was on TV all the time. I don't think anyone has broadcast them in the past 20 years though.

My favorite character was Spock but Kirk was the favorite of the majority.  Michael Myers from the original Halloween movie wore a Captain Kirk mask with the hair ripped out, they lacked the budget for a custom killer face.



I fell for the humanity of Kirk but I loved the "otherness" of Spock.

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Re: The killlers
« Reply #147 on: March 28, 2015, 09:48:PM »
 I see Bob Woffinden is now on the trail in helping to clear Eddie Gilfoyle's name,having given oral evidence to the Justice Committee.
I wonder how long it'll be before he drops that one ??

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Re: The killlers
« Reply #148 on: March 28, 2015, 10:03:PM »


I fell for the humanity of Kirk but I loved the "otherness" of Spock.
Anyone heard the recording they made of Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds?  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Now that's something else. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

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Re: The killlers
« Reply #149 on: March 28, 2015, 10:09:PM »
I have said it so many times, but people just don´t accept what I say. So be it.
  Some people accept it Alias. Had Jeremy committed the murders, I agree that once the need for a second shot arose, then he would surely have felt that it would not be possible to pass off Sheila's murder as suicide. It is argued that because two shot suicides are viable and do indeed happen then Jeremy would have felt no need to change the plan. Even if Jeremy had been aware of this, which I think unlikely, he could not be confident that Sheila's death would easily be accepted as such.
     This alongside the fact that he also messed up by using the silencer, which he discovered was too long for Sheila to have committed suicide, so he had to replace it in the gun cupboard after murdering Sheila. Oddly he didn't discover the fact that the silencer was too long until after the second fatal shot. There are two, rather than one, massive blunders in the staged suicide scenario and yet supposedly neither of these blunders made Jeremy change course.
     Anyway after putting the silencer back, which was too long, he coolly invents a phone call and convinces Essex Police and armed units to remain outside for hours with his cunning, or so we are led to believe.
      You are right Alias, this part of the prosecution case sounds so unlikely that it merits scrutiny.