The killlers

[maggie]

Jeremy said he was asleep in bed when things went AWOL at WHF.

However there was no possibility he would have committed the massacre with an accomplice.

He did not have the money to pay someone. No one would be willing to assist him in committing such a terrible crime. He would not want to risk an accomplice cracking and confessing.

The claim that he could not do it alone is incredibly weak. He was up against two six year old's, a 61 year old woman and a small un coordinated woman. Only Neville posed a threat. It was the perfect time for an execution.  Everyone was asleep in bed. Jeremy fully clothed with a loaded rifle.

Adam, however many times you state that Sheila was 'small' it doesn't change the fact Sheila was almost 5'8" the required minimal height to be a model back in mid 80s, taller than June - '61 year old woman' and pretty much half her age. It's true Sheila must have been very slight as she had a low body weight but she was a healthy and possibly strong young woman.

[maggie]

I created a thread on this. As this is the point you keep mentioning to try show Jeremy is innocent.

The first shot didn't kill her. So he had to fire a second shot.

Adam, don't think Alias is trying to prove JB innocent, rather she is asking a question and trying to reach a conclusion by reasoning. It's the opposite to deciding on an opinion then trying to force everyone else to agree with it in any way possible .

[Bubbles35]

If we knew who done it adam the case would be solved. And there would be no debate ?

[Adam]

If we knew who done it adam the case would be solved. And there would be no debate ?

Do you not have an opinion ?

You have just said Jeremy did not pull the trigger. And created a thread saying you believe more than one person committed the massacre.

[lookout]

Oh I'm not admitting it but its quite it did not happen.  I want to know who the feathered earring belongs too....

Patti,was it an earring ? I ask because Jeremy wore a feather either behind his ear,or stuck in his hair.
Once again----------------------I've read that the feather belonged to Jeremy,but that being the case,why would it be left like a " calling card " on the table which was so obvious ?

[maggie]

Patti,was it an earring ? I ask because Jeremy wore a feather either behind his ear,or stuck in his hair.
Once again----------------------I've read that the feather belonged to Jeremy,but that being the case,why would it be left like a " calling card " on the table which was so obvious ?

Was it Jeremy or Brett who wore the feather?

[lookout]

Was it Jeremy or Brett who wore the feather?

Now you're asking,Maggie. I do know that it was either one of them,or both,with possibly the same feather.

[maggie]

Now you're asking,Maggie. I do know that it was either one of them,or both,with possibly the same feather.

Bit busy just now to look it up but pretty sure Robert Boutflour spoke of Brett wearing a feather in his ear.

[lookout]

Bit busy just now to look it up but pretty sure Robert Boutflour spoke of Brett wearing a feather in his ear.

Could well have been him then Maggie. Do we know the whereabouts of Brett Collins ? There was one such person who'd been released from LongBay prison in NSW in 1980 for armed robbery and burglary ?

[maggie]

Could well have been him then Maggie. Do we know the whereabouts of Brett Collins ? There was one such person who'd been released from LongBay prison in NSW in 1980 for armed robbery and burglary ?

No, don't believe we do know where he is, think he went back from whence he came.  Don't know how old Brett was but would have needed to have been a very early starter or a lot older than Jeremy for it to be the same Brett.  I'm sure the police checked his background and found nothing of suspicion in it because he was only questioned as to his whereabouts at the time of the murders he didn't make a statement and was never a suspect.  He was in Greece when the murders occurred.
Mike did post part of the document recording his questioning but I haven't been able to find it recently, have asked Mike to repost it but hasn't done so far.

[Caroline]

If we knew who done it adam the case would be solved. And there would be no debate ?

The case is solved, Jeremy did it - he was convicted, the debate is that people refuse to accept it. (Puts on armour to deflect the knives  )

[Stephanie]

The case is solved, Jeremy did it - he was convicted, the debate is that people refuse to accept it. (Puts on armour to deflect the knives  )

There was a time when you were one of the posters who defended JB.

[Patti]

Patti,was it an earring ? I ask because Jeremy wore a feather either behind his ear,or stuck in his hair.
Once again----------------------I've read that the feather belonged to Jeremy,but that being the case,why would it be left like a " calling card " on the table which was so obvious ?

I'm only 90% sure its an earring on the table. You can just about see the white plastic cup where the fixing goes into it. It could belong to Sheila but as we can see she was more feminine in her choice of jewelery.  Feathered earring were quite fashionable then and are in fashion now.

RB had Jeremy followed and noted that he hung about with a male friend who wore a feather in his ear. This person was not Brett.

The feather is never mentioned by the police yet I have always felt that it could be of some significance. I could be totally wrong.  It has been suggested that one of the twins may have picked a feather up on a walk, but this feather has something attached to it and mirrors the image of an earring in my opinion.  But, like I said I could be wrong...

[Caroline]

I'm only 90% sure its an earring on the table. You can just about see the white plastic cup where the fixing goes into it. It could belong to Sheila but as we can see she was more feminine in her choice of jewelery.  Feathered earring were quite fashionable then and are in fashion now.

RB had Jeremy followed and noted that he hung about with a male friend who wore a feather in his ear. This person was not Brett.

The feather is never mentioned by the police yet I have always felt that it could be of some significance. I could be totally wrong.  It has been suggested that one of the twins may have picked a feather up on a walk, but this feather has something attached to it and mirrors the image of an earring in my opinion.  But, like I said I could be wrong...

It's too big to be an earring Patti - you can see the scale of it in respect to the knife in the picture below. Plus is a scratty looking thing, not really something anyone would want dangling from their ear.

[Jane]

It's too big to be an earring Patti - you can see the scale of it in respect to the knife in the picture below. Plus is a scratty looking thing, not really something anyone would want dangling from their ear.

It looks to me as if a child has stuck the feather in to something heavy to create a flying object. It's more of a botched together arrow than an artisan earring.