The killlers

[Patti]

Glad you admit it! 

Oh I'm not admitting it but its quite it did not happen.  I want to know who the feathered earring belongs too....

[guest154]

Oh I'm not admitting it but its quite it did not happen.  I want to know who the feathered earring belongs too....

You don't think the phone call happened? Then how can you believe Bamber innocent?

[guest2181]

You don't think the phone call happened? Then how can you believe Bamber innocent?

That's a fair question.

[Caroline]

Daft to ignore it isn't it. JEREMY says it happened.

It's the 'crux' 

[scipio_usmc]

There weren't one...

Are you talking about no call from Nevill to police or no call from Nevill to Jeremy?

Because Caroline was talking about no phone call from Nevill to Jeremy.

[Caroline]

Are you talking about no call from Nevill to police or no call from Nevill to Jeremy?

Because Caroline was talking about no phone call from Nevill to Jeremy.

Sounds like a final admission to me! 

[Alias]

"My dad called he said 'Sheila has gone crazy, she's got the gun'!"

This is what makes it either Jeremy or Sheila.

It is.

But would you have been so incredibly stupid to stage a two shot murder as  a suicide?

[scipio_usmc]

It is.

But would you have been so incredibly stupid to stage a two shot murder as  a suicide?

Same old broken record..,the same answer will come each time you ask this no matter how many times you ask it- after the first shot was botched he felt he had no choice but to shoot her again.  He couldn't stage it as anything other than a murder suicide it was too late at that point to try staging it as something else.  He didn't think it would matter that 2 shots had been fired and he was right Vanezis didn't rule out suicide on such basis because there are sometimes multiple shot suicides- sometimes more than 2 shots in fact.   

[Adam]

It is.

But would you have been so incredibly stupid to stage a two shot murder as  a suicide?

I created a thread on this. As this is the point you keep mentioning to try show Jeremy is innocent.

The first shot didn't kill her. So he had to fire a second shot.

[Adam]

I really believe that the murder was committed by more than 1 person. It's not possible for 1 person to have controlled all the family gun or not.

There have been threads on this.

Jeremy told the police Neville had rang him saying 'Sheila had gone crazy'. He later told the police Neville may have said 'she'after the police questioned her two bullets.

Jeremy said he was asleep in bed, so either Sheila alone massacred everyone. Or one/two random burglars/psychopaths broke in and killed everyone.

I am surprised Neville had time and decided to ring Jeremy in either situation. 

[Adam]

Jeremy said he was asleep in bed when things went AWOL at WHF.

However there was no possibility he would have committed the massacre with an accomplice.

He did not have the money to pay someone. No one would be willing to assist him in committing such a terrible crime. He would not want to risk an accomplice cracking and confessing.

The claim that he could not do it alone is incredibly weak. He was up against two six year old's, a 61 year old woman and a small un coordinated woman. Only Neville posed a threat. It was the perfect time for an execution.  Everyone was asleep in bed. Jeremy fully clothed with a loaded rifle.

[Bubbles35]

Adam he sees himself as not gulity because he never pulled the trigger

[Adam]

Adam he sees himself as not gulity because he never pulled the trigger

Do you think it was a female random burglar/psychopath ?

The evidence shows it was not Sheila and no one is able to explain how she did it. And you said Jeremy did not pull the trigger.

[Bubbles35]

No I think it was organised murder Very well planned. However it went very wrong.

[Adam]

No I think it was organised murder Very well planned. However it went very wrong.

Organised and committed by who ?